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1935 Armstrong Siddeley 17HP Sports Saloon
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greenbeam



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 12:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The instrument chassis is also complete now, with ignition and light switches rebuilt and new vinyl labels printed.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 1:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paul,

The car is progressing magnificently. The instrument cluster looks fantastic. A lot of work and a lot of money, but the end result will make you very happy.

Keith
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Beautiful job, thanks for the update!

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greenbeam



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 11:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A writeup on my car and the search for its history on prewarcar.com:

https://www.prewarcar.com/early-history-of-this-1935-armstrong-siddeley-17hp-sports-saloon

Cheers,
Paul.
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Peter_L



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 12:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great project and very interesting history. Thanks for taking the time to update OCC. Stay Safe.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 24, 2020 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats some superb work done, keep posting.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2021 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi All,
Some interesting developments with my car. A lovely bit of history of an early owner.

While dismantling the front bumper of the car to have it re-chromed, I discovered the number plate SA 4 (i.e., the fourth number issued in South Australia) hidden behind a white-on-black 6 numeral plate. A search online revealed that Sir Arthur Cudmore was issued SA 4 in 1907 and it remained in the Cudmore family until it was sold in 2012. Ivan Hoffman of the Sporting Car Club of SA advised that the construction of the SA 4 plate is of a type available from the 1920s, being alloy letters riveted to a cast-alloy backing plate. Although the numbers have been removed to fit the later plate over it, the outline of íSA 4í is clearly visible on the plate.

Further searches led me to Sir Arthurís great-granddaughter, who put me in touch with Sir Arthurís grandson, now 85 years old. He and I spoke on the phone for about an hour and he remembers the car and the circumstances of his grandfatherís ownership very well.

He described the following to me by phone on Sunday 14th February, 2021.
His aunt lived in England with her husband, but came back to Australia with her son in 1937/8 for an extended visit. According to Sir Arthur's grandson, Sir Arthur is likely to have asked them to bring with them a new car for him (something that had happened before), because they brought to Australia the two-year old Armstrong Siddeley Sports Saloon.

Sir Arthur's grandson recalled a number of features of the Armstrong Siddeley, such as the steel cover over the mudguard-mounted spare wheel (an ĎAceí brand cover used by Armstrong Siddeley at that time, and still with the car today), the fold-down boot-lid with chrome strips to carry a luggage trunk, and the fold-down table and footrests in the back of the front seat. He does not recall the car being two-tone green, suggesting that the car must have been repainted either in England before being shipped to Australia, or by his Grandfather on arrival in Australia. He did say that Sir Arthur was very fussy about the appearance of his cars and would not have tolerated damaged paint on the car.

In 1948, the family in England once again came to Australia for an extended visit. This time the English boy attended school with Sir Arthur's grandson for most of the year. During the visit, Sir Arthur's daughters convinced the now 78-year-old Sir Arthur that the Siddeley was too big and cumbersome for him, which resulted in him buying a new Austin to replace the Siddeley. Sir Arthur's grandson said he remembered the car being sold in 1948 as a 12-year-old boy during that visit. He said that Sir Arthurís cars were always well-maintained and treated carefully, being stored in the garage when not in use.

Sir Arthur Cudmore was one of the founders of what is now the Royal Automobile Association of South Australia, and was its president from 1935 until his death in 1951.

I have been in touch with the RAA Historian and the National Motor Museum in Australia to find more about that period of the car's history.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2021 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, great sleuthing job, to find out that early history is a real bonus.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rick wrote:
Wow, great sleuthing job, to find out that early history is a real bonus.

RJ


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Interesting story.

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