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Peter_L
Joined: 10 Apr 2008
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Location: New Brunswick. Canada.
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 Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 12:42 am Post subject: Can I grouse about photos ? |
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Some where along the line of digital photography, it seems that more and more photographs of vehicles are being altered so as to hide the reg/licence/number plate.
Why ?? The future internet archive of photos is being degraded by what I view as a pointless exercise... |
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ukdave2002
Joined: 23 Nov 2007
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Location: South Cheshire
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| Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 8:23 am Post subject: |
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I agree. I'm not sure what they think they are achieving? Given the number plate is on display to the general public anyway !
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Rick
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Joined: 27 Apr 2005
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Location: UK
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Bitumen Boy
Joined: 26 Jan 2012
Posts: 1763
Location: Above the snow line in old Monmouthshire
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| Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 9:39 am Post subject: |
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| I've blocked numberplates on my photos to avoid the risk of somebody "cloning" the car and lumbering me with their speeding and parking fines, etc. There have been too many stories of innocent motorists getting the shaft in these cases where the authorities are only interested in collecting the fines rather than investigating properly. Now of course someone may see my car out on the road locally and decide to note down the numberplate for a nefarious purpose: but that information is going to be of limited use to them if they don't have a yellow Herald, or indeed any Herald. If, however, any crook that can use google can find pictures of my car with the numberplates clearly visible it can only multiply the risk of being "cloned" - so I for one will continue to block my numberplates in photos. |
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ukdave2002
Joined: 23 Nov 2007
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Location: South Cheshire
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| Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Bitumen Boy wrote: | | I've blocked numberplates on my photos to avoid the risk of somebody "cloning" the car and lumbering me with their speeding and parking fines, etc. There have been too many stories of innocent motorists getting the shaft in these cases where the authorities are only interested in collecting the fines rather than investigating properly. Now of course someone may see my car out on the road locally and decide to note down the numberplate for a nefarious purpose: but that information is going to be of limited use to them if they don't have a yellow Herald, or indeed any Herald. If, however, any crook that can use google can find pictures of my car with the numberplates clearly visible it can only multiply the risk of being "cloned" - so I for one will continue to block my numberplates in photos. |
I suspect as you allude to, it's stories and anecdotal bar chat! can anyone point us to to a case whew an innocent classic car owner has actually suffered?
I had a modern stolen a few years ago; a 6 series BMW, the day after it was stolen the police asked me if I had a photo, reason being that there was a no pay at a petrol station in the county with another 6 series. With the photo the police determined that it was my car on cloned plates , there is always subtitle differences (there was an owner of the same coloured car who's plates the low life had cloned, who the police had visited ) the police arranged for the cloned car to have a temporary reg so that it could move around and put a mark on its original reg. Within 24 hours my car on the false plates was picked up by an in car police number plate recognition system, the toe rag was arrested, I got my car back and mr low life got a year inside.
Getting to the point, if a low life did clone a classic , I'd suggest that the chances of the owner picking up any speeding or parking fines are next to zero.
Dave
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PAUL BEAUMONT
Joined: 27 Nov 2007
Posts: 1281
Location: Barnsley S. Yorks
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| Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2016 1:02 am Post subject: |
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| A friend of mine spent some time, a while back, trying to convince the faceless letter generating bureaucrats that operate the London Congestion Zone that his classic car was garaged 200 miles from London when the alleged contravention took place. Eventually when properly investigated it turned out to be a Swedish (I believe) registered car. |
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Dipster
Joined: 06 Jan 2015
Posts: 408
Location: UK, France and Portugal - unless I am travelling....
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| Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2016 8:55 am Post subject: |
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I rented a Passat Tdi from Avis a few years ago. No problems during the rental period and I handed it back and carried on with my life.
A couple of weeks later I got a parking ticket in the post, forwarded from Avis, for an alleged parking offence in Cambridge. At the time of the alleged offense the car was safely tucked up, under CCTV surveilance, in a secure parking area that was part of a Government building in London!
I rang the issuing office and explained. I was quite surprised when the very nice lady I spoke to was able to give me the correct colour of the rental vehicle and admitted that cloning was a massive problem and simply cancelled the ticket! No fuss, no checks of my story, no letter required.
I can imagine that others might have been able to claim cloning to avoid tickets if no checks were made! |
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Bitumen Boy
Joined: 26 Jan 2012
Posts: 1763
Location: Above the snow line in old Monmouthshire
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| Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2016 11:35 am Post subject: |
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| ukdave2002 wrote: |
I suspect as you allude to, it's stories and anecdotal bar chat! can anyone point us to to a case whew an innocent classic car owner has actually suffered?
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Maybe it is just stories, but there again I don't need concrete proof of someone on this street being burgled to convince me to lock the front door when I go out. People kidding themselves that they won't be victims of crime is just what the crooks want. |
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lowdrag
Joined: 10 Apr 2009
Posts: 1600
Location: Le Mans
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| Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2016 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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| One only has to open Google Earth to see that every face and every plate is blocked out. But remember that the French have changed to flashing speeding cars from behind so the wife can't see who is sitting next to her husband! |
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emmerson
Joined: 30 Sep 2008
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Location: South East Wales
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Somebody in our valley went one better than cloning - they stole the number plates off our Berlingo dog van! I reported it to the local police, who said it was such a minor crime that they wouldn't even come out to investigate it! They gave me a crime number for my insurance claim, and offered me counselling, as a crime victim.I'm afraid I lost my cool and told them what to do with their counselling.
Never heard any more. |
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MikeEdwards
Joined: 25 May 2011
Posts: 2722
Location: South Cheshire
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| emmerson wrote: | Somebody in our valley went one better than cloning - they stole the number plates off our Berlingo dog van! I reported it to the local police, who said it was such a minor crime that they wouldn't even come out to investigate it! They gave me a crime number for my insurance claim, and offered me counselling, as a crime victim.I'm afraid I lost my cool and told them what to do with their counselling.
Never heard any more. |
Point is, though, that you've got a record that the plates have been stolen, which will be helpful in the event that you start getting tickets turning up that can't have been you.
(With apologies for thread resurration, I hadn't realised this section was here) |
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