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Peter_L
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 Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 6:00 pm Post subject: Motoring Terms and Words. |
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I will start this because I was asked today why is the No1 position in motor racing called the "Pole Position". I had a rough idea but looked it up.
Answer: The term has its origins in horse racing, in which the fastest qualifying horse would be placed on the inside part of the course, next to the pole.
There have to be more. Cars have "Wings" well they do in England.
"Bonnet" ? I know why there are "Glove Boxes".
I wonder who first decided to call it a "Clutch"
"Dashboard", ? never seen one move let alone dash anywhere.
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Penman
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Hi
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Etymology
Horse-drawn carriage dashboard
Originally, the word dashboard applied to a barrier of wood or leather fixed at the front of a horse-drawn carriage or sleigh to protect the driver from mud or other debris "dashed up" (thrown up) by the horses' hooves. Commonly these boards did not perform any additional function other than providing a convenient handhold for ascending into the driver's seat, or a small clip with which to secure the reins when not in use.
When the first "horseless carriages" were constructed in the late 19th century, with engines mounted beneath the driver such as the Daimler Stahlradwagen, the simple dashboard was retained to protect occupants from debris thrown up by the cars' front wheels. However, as car design evolved to position the motor in front of the driver, the dashboard became a panel that protected vehicle occupants from the heat and oil of the engine. With gradually increasing mechanical complexity, this panel formed a convenient location for the placement of gauges and minor controls, and from this evolved the modern instrument panel, although retaining its archaic common name.
The first mass produced automobile, the Oldsmobile Curved Dash, got its name from its dash(board), which was curved like that of a sleigh. |
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Riley Blue
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As the first cars were 'horseless carriages' it's perhaps not surprising that a number of equine terms have been adopted, especially in motorsport e.g. 'paddock' . In the early years, racing drivers wore colours, just like jockeys and rode 'on' cars rather than 'in' them.
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alastairq
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Location: East Yorkshire
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'Clutch' isn't just associated with vehicles.
Dictionaries define clutch as 'grabbing hold'...of something. Gripping, taking hold.
This is essentially what any sort of clutch mechanism does? |
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peter scott
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| Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 10:07 am Post subject: Re: Motoring Terms and Words. |
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"Bonnet" ? "Dashboard" ? |
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The word “dashboard” was originally used to describe the wooden board carriage makers attached to the front of carriages to prevent mud and rocks from being splashed (or “dashed”) onto drivers and their passengers by the horses that pulled them about. |
"Bonnet" is fairly understandable, as is "hood".
I suppose "fenders" is also understandable although I can't help thinking "bumpers" instead of "wings".
I did wonder about the derivation of the term "jack". It appears to be a helper or labour saver but I still don't know the origin.
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Peter_L
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Hello Peter S. This side of the Atlantic. it is "Fender" instead of "Wing"
and the Sill below the door is a "Rocker Panel" |
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Keith D
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We dont have fenders nor wings. We have either mudguards or just guards.
Keith
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peter scott
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Some folk also called them "mudwings" over here.
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Peter_L
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peter scott
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and the Sill below the door is a "Rocker Panel" |
That's understandable when you take the body off the chassis.
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MikeEdwards
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| peterwpg wrote: | | and the Sill below the door is a "Rocker Panel" |
I remember when I was a kid and used to collect car brochures, for some reason I got a Ford range brochure and remember trying to figure out for ages what it referred to on a sporty Mk2 Escort when it said "Black painted rocker panels".
We guessed it was the sills from the photographs, but of course back then didn't have any significant knowledge about any part of a car you couldn't see from outside, so it was a lucky guess. |
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Rootes75
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Why 'bulkhead'? I wonder.
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peter scott
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I think that one probably comes from ship construction.
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Keith D
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We frequently refer to the bukhead as the "firewall".
Keith
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alanb
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bulkhead
ˈbʌlkhɛd/
noun
a dividing wall or barrier between separate compartments inside a ship, aircraft, or other vehicle.
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