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kevin2306



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2018 5:25 pm    Post subject: Modern Cars Reply with quote

Frustrating issue today.
Servicing my sons Renault Clio ( he is a lowly paid apprentice so we help him run his car), decided to replace front pads and discs.
On removing the Cali per, moved onto the carrier and found the 2 bolts to be 18mm.
I have a great set of tools, amassed over too many years but no 18mm..is it an odd size?
A trip to Halfords sorted it.

Kev[/list]
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MikeEdwards



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2018 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not that unusual - my (relatively) modern Audi needs 16mm and 18mm spanners to do some stuff on the front suspension.

It is very common, though, for a "set" of combi metric spanners to include 11,12,13,14,15,17 and 19mm, and miss out 16 and 18mm. Same for sockets. My "wants" list at the NEC show last year was 16mm and 18mm spanners - I'd borrowed them to do my CV Boot, but I don't like to have to borrow stuff like that twice.
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kevin2306



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2018 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MikeEdwards wrote:
It's not that unusual - my (relatively) modern Audi needs 16mm and 18mm spanners to do some stuff on the front suspension.

It is very common, though, for a "set" of combi metric spanners to include 11,12,13,14,15,17 and 19mm, and miss out 16 and 18mm. Same for sockets. My "wants" list at the NEC show last year was 16mm and 18mm spanners - I'd borrowed them to do my CV Boot, but I don't like to have to borrow stuff like that twice.


Thatís how all my sets are Mike, I bought the 18mm socket and have ordered an 18mm combination spanner from amazon.
Now you mention it, Iíve not got a 16mm spanner either!

Kev
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alastairq



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Location: East Yorkshire

PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2018 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Of all the metric spanners I have..collected over many decades..I have but one 16mm spanner....but a couple of 18mm items [usually paired with 19mm ]...
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Bitumen Boy



Joined: 26 Jan 2012
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Location: Above the snow line in old Monmouthshire

PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2018 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, it's sadly quite common to sell sets like this. I reckon they make as much money selling the odd sizes as they do on the sets, and then they'll flog you another toolbox to keep them all in... Rolling Eyes
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MikeEdwards



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just keep an eye out on the miscellaneous tool stalls at autojumbles. My 16mm and 18mm combo spanners were £1 each at the NEC.
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Rootes75



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

With some birthday vouchers I bought a nice set of ratchet spanners from Halfords. You would be surprised how many times I have used the 16mm and 18mm's.
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Peter_L



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does anyone have one of these ?

Tight Reach Extension.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZjqpQPYOos
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MikeEdwards



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't. They look quite interesting, but pricey at the moment if the links under the video are right. Worth it if it saves several hours stripping something down, though.
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Peter_L



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On Amazon.co.uk. "tight reach wrench"

Certainly a little pricey. I also found DIY Plastic ones with Max 30ft lbs torque.

A Christmas gift for the guy who has everything. Not too early to leave the odd photo or drop into the conversation.. (nudge, nudge, wink, wink)
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badhuis



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

peterwpg wrote:
Does anyone have one of these ?

Tight Reach Extension.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZjqpQPYOos

I got one for my birthday a few months ago. It does not seem very sturdy, it has 3/8" drives on each ends. Have to admit I have not found a use for it as yet Embarassed
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Bitumen Boy



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Assuming they were strong enough to do a job of work, I can see it being possible to remove a fastener but having no way of starting the thread to replace it. A tool like that that will fit where hands won't seems to me to be asking for trouble...
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Rick
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It looks like one of those oddball tools that might come in really handy, once, and spends the rest of the time gathering dust. However if I were working on moderns all the time, it may be worth owning.

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7gzr



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Location: 'B' road Heaven - Wild Wales

PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

18mm Hex bolts are used on my subaru
16mm is same as old 5/8"AF so no problems there, other sizes the same in metric A/F are 19mm /3/4" and 22mm 7/8" - worth knowing that:}
You may also find odd size allen screws - on my Subaru they use 7+9 mm allen headed bolts, Keys for which you won't find in any 'Normal' allen key sets
Other oddities you may come accross 15mm hex bolts - used on the wife's VW
and triangular headed screws on various door trims stc.
If you do your own maintenance it's worth buying these odd sized tools.
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alastairq



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wasn't it Bugatti who use one size of bolt head throughout?
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