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1953 Volvo PV444
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will PM you the link. Just click on it and you will get a directory of files that you can open and download onto your own computer.
Let me know if you have any problems.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

norustplease wrote:
I will PM you the link. Just click on it and you will get a directory of files that you can open and download onto your own computer.
Let me know if you have any problems.


All done, many thanks for putting those up. It was interesting to read about the Phillips radio in the Accessories publication. The radio in mine is that make, it isn't connected up but there's a power unit loose in the boot that I need to investigate, to see if it's the correct one for the head unit.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are welcome
Unfortunately I didn't have the document for the B4B engines, just the B16, but I think that the specs document tells you things like tappet clearances, timing, etc.
I think that you have a real gem there, a very good find indeed.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2019 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My 444 came from Salstad near Trollhattan and was bought new by a lady called Anna Larsson. Unfortunately it went into storage in a barn before the Swedish Government put all registrations onto computer, and so was 'lost' as far as the registration system was concerned.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 28, 2019 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We took the PV to a local meet in Audlem today, as predicted the weather was pretty terrible for the entire duration of our trip out. Still, it was a good test of the car in damp horrible conditions but I'm not sorry to be back home now, fire on, warming up.

One plus of going today was speaking to someone who thinks that he might know of a poorly PV on a farm, that might be available .... I gave him my number, just in case it's still there and still available, it was about 12 months ago that he spotted it.




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PostPosted: Sun Jul 28, 2019 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rick,

Your Volvo looks in very good shape and quite a rare car in the UK. Very strange about the LHD. Were Volvo rather far sighted or possibly interested in the export market. Were RHD versions of your car available as an option?

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peter scott wrote:
Rick,

Your Volvo looks in very good shape and quite a rare car in the UK. Very strange about the LHD. Were Volvo rather far sighted or possibly interested in the export market. Were RHD versions of your car available as an option?

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PVs were never sold officially in the UK, so I doubt they ever produced them in RHD, just LHD. This one came from Sweden at some point in the past, as a personal import.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 28, 2019 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi
From https://www.volvoclub.org.uk/history/driving_on_right.shtml
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Why were pre-1967 Volvos left hand drive?
Comes the question why Volvos were offered with left-hand drive in Sweden during the days of left-hand traffic. Let us quote Volvo president Assar Gabrielsson from chapter 74 of his sales handbook, dated 1936:
"When automobiles first appeared in Sweden, roads were narrow and twisting. It was very difficult to pass a horse and cart or another car, and you really had to concentrate on the left shoulder of the road. American cars were always delivered with their steering wheels on the left side, and for such a small market as Sweden they were reluctant to change their cars to right-hand drive. Consequently, salesmen of American cars in Sweden often exaggerated the importance of the left shoulder. Through this, the Swedish people has become used to have the steering wheel on the left side, in spite of Sweden having left-hand traffic. In most other countries, the steering wheel is located at the right side when the traffic is left-hand, or at the left when traffic is right-hand. We at Volvo are fully convinced that taking the road standard into consideration, the left shoulder is of little or no importance. It is much more important to have a clear view of the road ahead when overtaking. Therefore, the most logic thing would be that Volvos were made with right-hand drive. In spite of this, we have kept left-hand drive because we do not feel that we have to be pioneers in this area.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 28, 2019 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very interesting! Back in the early 1970s I did some touring in Norway with a RHD car and certainly it was still possible to overtake slower vehicles when you got a good view down the near side. I guess drivers of LHD cars before 1967 would be doing the same thing.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 02, 2019 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 444 was pressed into service for yesterday's local pub meet.



One interesting niggle that emerged last Sunday, during our very wet outing, is that the electric wipers occasionally are reluctant to switch off. They're designed to self-park as standard (very swish), but when you switch off, the wipers park back down at the bottom of the screen correctly, but sometimes pause momentarily, then sweep back up the screen again. It can take 3 or 4 goes for them to park, and stay parked.

I assume there's a gremlin within the park mechanism in the motor, although I guess that there may also be a glitch inside the switch. I might try a different switch and see what happens, before delving into the motor, assuming I can even get to it easily...

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 02, 2019 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The self parking mechanism is probably dirty and needs a clean. Unlikely to be the switch, I would have thought.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 02, 2019 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interestingly I have a similar issue with the wipers on my Firenza. In fact I have two issues - for some time they don't "park" quite at the bottom of the sweep of the wipers, they stop a little higher, and a quick push of the "flick wipe" switch takes them a little further down. But more recently I've noticed that sometimes they will operate once on their own, for no apparent reason. I think I'll have to take a spare motor to pieces to see what's going on.
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The PV was pressed into service today for a drive over to the Avro Air Fair held at Woodford, former home to Avro, BAe etc etc.

It drove pretty well for an old car on crossplies in the wet. Now back home, I've a small list of things to check/grease/investigate so it'll soon be jacked up, wheels off, for work to begin. We don't have any shows coming up for a few weeks so no great rush, plus the MM's now departed to a new home so that frees up some time to spend on the Ovlov over the next few weeks.

Despite the weather forecast for the day being terrible, we were very lucky to get away with just a couple of brief showers. Saying that, the roads were fairly mucky in places - the car was a lot grubbier than it looks in this photo. More photos of the event as a whole to follow shortly.



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Last time out, the brake pedal was showing signs of getting a little "long". Further inspection today revealed a master cylinder lacking in much fluid, and a damp backplate on one side at the front. So it's now up in the air, wheels off. Both drums were removed, the n/s was damp and clearly the wheel cylinder has been leaking, so that'll have to be done. The o/s looks ok but it'll make sense to do both.

Curiously, a 444 handbook (possibly for cars slightly later than mine) suggests that the front brakes are self-adjusting. However mine has none of the mechanism shown in the book, nor can I see any other obvious way of adjusting the front end, although the leading shoe on both sides do have single holes in them, which the absent mechanisms require in order to work, so it may have been self-adjusting at one time, but the fiddly bits have been removed by a previous owner. Further investigation required..!

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The earlier 444 did have self adjusters, a very complex linkage with all sorts of springs, etc. most of which rusted away and were unreplaceable. Mine just fell to pieces, the car having been sat unused in a shed in Sweden for many years.
The 544 has an adjuster at the base of the backplate with a toothed wheel which is accessed through a hole and is manipulated by moving it with a screwdriver to expand or contract the adjuster as required.
I cannot for the life of me remember what I did to the 444 brakes beyond stripping out the old mechanism, relining and fitting new cylinders. With new linings, they probably were probably okay without a need for adjustment, which may be the view that your previous owner has taken. I suppose the logical step is to get hold of a set of 544 or late 444 backplates and substitute them with the later mechanisms.

Scandix do refurbished backplates and all the bits, at a price. I would try Amazon cars first however. They are into 544's and sometimes keep secondhand parts in stock.

https://www.amazoncars.co.uk/

I have a set of backplates on a rear axle which are off a later B16 car if you eventually get around to replacing those at some point, but these will not fit the front.
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