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1953 Volvo PV444
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Ray White



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rick. What oil are you using?

I am unsure which oil to use in my rebuilt MG engine. As the engine is clean perhaps a synthetic oil would have an advantage. It shouldn't require such frequent changes as mineral oil. but....

The dilemma I have is that I will need to run in the engine. Can you get synthetic oil for that?

Fully synthetic oil is expensive - especially if you are not going to use it for many miles.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It may be different for a rebuilt engine, but I'll just continue using mineral 20/50 in the Ovlov and change it on a regular basis.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ray,

Get the cheapest rubbish for running in then transfer to fully synth. I use Ford Formula F which is available on line at reasonable prices.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I discovered a piece of steel swarf while fitting the camshaft so I am wondering if there is any more that has escaped the cleaning process?

I will be running with a modern disposable canister type oil filter that fits inside what looks like an original style outer canister and I have also invested in a new magnetic sump plug just in case but I was going to buy one anyway.

In addition, I have bought a clever devise that you can use to adjust the oil pressure. It is much more convenient than fiddling about with different pressure relief springs.

I will also have a new oil pressure gauge so hopefully covered all the weak points of the system.

I used Millers 'running in' oil in the Dodge engine. I may use it again just to be on the safe side.

This XPAG engine is costing so I need to take care with the oil.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 27, 2020 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

During a (scheduled) power cut yesterday, I was stuck here with very little to do, bar keep an eye on the 240v generator that we had running to keep the cellar pump and fridge/freezers working. So it seemed like a good time to scrape off caked-on muck and grease from the 444's front suspension. By torchlight.

I've been putting this off for a while, but it had to be done, and now it's all cleaned up and looking a lot more presentable.

Next will be to check each grease nipple then give the front end a much-needed greasing.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rick wrote:


Next will be to check each grease nipple then give the front end a much-needed greasing.

RJ


What grease will you be using, Rick? There seems to be so many different options these days I am a bit confused. Confused
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ray White wrote:
Rick wrote:


Next will be to check each grease nipple then give the front end a much-needed greasing.

RJ


What grease will you be using, Rick? There seems to be so many different options these days I am a bit confused. Confused


Whatever's on the shelf, something "in period" I'm sure Smile

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2020 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A few days back I gave the Volvo an airing, its first proper warm-through since changing the oil. I was surprised to see that on my return, with it fully warmed up, there was an oil haze from the exhaust, increasing quite noticeably when revved. Previously, there had been nothing.

For the recent oil change I used Comma 20/50 classic oil, a tin of which I had on the shelf. On reading around after seeing this haze, I found other people commenting how they'd have to top up more often than usual when using Comma, and that the pressure didn't stay as high as some other oils once the engine was warm.

I'm sure I used Comma in the Moggy with no ill effects, but given that there was no oil burning with the Volvo prior to the change (I don't know what make of oil the previous owner had used), I decided to try a different brand. I'd read positive things about Heritage Classic Oil, so thought I'd give that a try today.

Touch wood, the oil haze has disappeared again, even after a spirited run for a few miles. Why the Volvo didn't seem keen on Comma, yet the Moggy was fine, I'm not sure, but I'll keep an eye on the oil level going forward, and see how it goes on this fresh lubricant from Mr F Thownsend's emporium.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2020 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is worth remembering, Rick.

You can never be sure. I once switched to Castrol GTX in a Vauxhall Astra.. It had never used oil until I put that in it ...and it continued to drink oil even when I went back to the original brand.

(It was my wife's car and she gave me grief... but that's another story. Ohhhhh! Crying or Very sad )
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2020 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also from reading around elsewhere, it's been suggested in various places that Halfords classic 20/50 is produced by Comma and simply put into a Halford tin.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2020 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I finally completed adding in Penrite lube to the steering box today, and gave the adjuster a minor tweak. I've left it with a little play still, rather than overdo anything, and it steers better now. Back outside now.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Raising standards recently on a local essential trip out, might as well drive something interesting rather than modern when the need arises.



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Absolutely. I have the 2Cv out at the moment with exactly this in mind.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

norustplease wrote:
Absolutely. I have the 2Cv out at the moment with exactly this in mind.


Well the way I see it (as of current recommendations), essential trips are still ok, so I may as well take this instead of the modern. Mobility could all change very quickly, so while I/we can ...

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another essentials-only run out to the nearest shop/P.O. today, so why not give the PV an airing?




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