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Hillman 80 hawk
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Rootes75



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 11, 2019 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Superb car, what a lovely find. It is a Hawk saloon, rare too. If you google Hillman Hawk you will find a couple others but not many.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 11, 2019 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lovely!
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Bassett



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 11, 2019 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thankyou,it's a lovely looking car,what tyres do you use and what grade of oil do you recommend in the engine? I drained it and put straight 30 in it as I already had some but was going to drop it again anyway.thanks again for your help!
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 11, 2019 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have the instruction book so will take a look. I have found you on Flickr too.
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Bassett



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 11, 2019 5:56 pm    Post subject: hillman Reply with quote

IMG_20190811_165723 by sarah mather, on Flickr

IMG_20190811_165816 by sarah mather, on Flickr

found these with some more paper work that came with the car.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 11, 2019 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What a great find, I don't think I've ever seen a car with such deep running boards before.

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Rootes75



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 11, 2019 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are right Rick, the running boards are very wide as are the rear wings. The evenkeel suspension used by Hillman on these was partly developed by Alec Issigonis.

I will post some pics of mine too, its on the longer wheelbase and is a limousine with wind down division.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 11, 2019 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the back of the brochure there's a section on the new evenkeel wonder suspension,and among the other paperwork a booklet entitled electricalities which looks to be Lucas instruction of how to get the best from your Lucas electrical system.Not that I've any plans on selling the car ,and I know without seeing it ,it is a stab in the dark but any idea what amount I should be insuring it for?Also ,and I know this is a bone of contention but..........leave original or restore Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 11, 2019 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Leave original, she looks superb. You can't replace patina.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 11, 2019 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's my way of thinking too,any suggestions to preserve it?,if it was a tractor I'd oily rag it but seems a bit rough on a car!
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 11, 2019 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bassett wrote:
That's my way of thinking too,any suggestions to preserve it?,if it was a tractor I'd oily rag it but seems a bit rough on a car!


There's a gent locally who has a wonderful early 1930s Austin, he douses it with WD40 or similar every year, and it looks just great. I've also heard of boiled linseed oil being used to give a protective sheen, but it has to the boiled variety otherwise it takes forever to dry Smile

Aforementioned Austin can be found in this recent thread, about 3/4 of the way down:

http://www.oldclassiccar.co.uk/forum/phpbb/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=168722

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 7:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

With regards the cars worth it is hard to say, the car is rare but Hillmans generally dont carry high prices.
When I insured the last classic that I had recently purchased I was asked what price I paid for her. The reason being if U had paid say 3k they were not keen on me insuring her for 10k a week later.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see ,sorry for all the questions but what tyres do you run?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rootes75 wrote:
Leave original, she looks superb. You can't replace patina.


I'm with Rootes on this. You can always wash and polish it to give it some wet weather protection. Store it under cover for the winter once they start salting the roads and don't bring it out again until the spring rains have washed it all away.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



This is the side on view of our Hillman 80 Limousine, she has the extended wheelbase so is longer than the Hawk Saloon, it can really been seen in this picture. She is totally original, bodywork is quite nice, the interior is aged but I am keeping it that way.

At a recent show a few people questioned why I wasn't planning to restore her!?! A stained headlining and some rips to the seats are just battle scars of her life. I cannot replace the patina and that lovely smell when you open the doors. She has lasted this long in this condition and its now my job/aim to preserve her as she is.
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