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Identify this car on the left from the 1920's please?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 11:09 am    Post subject: Identify this car on the left from the 1920's please? Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



(apologies for sideways scrolling required, RJ)

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thank u Rick
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, it's late 1920s American, but I cannot go beyond that!
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agreed, the headlamps are the same as on little Dodge (1924), and would have appeared on numerous different US cars. The wheels are perhaps the most distinguishing feature of whatever this car is.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dusenburg?

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 19, 2019 7:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The trucks (lorries) are all Fords, so I would suggest that maybe the car is a related Ford product. It is obviously a luxury machine, so I would suggest Lincoln of about 1925/26
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 19, 2019 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Willys-Overland Six c.1925; they had that pattern bonnet/hood side pressing, had two-rail bumpers and were available with disc wheels.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 19, 2019 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or better still, a Packard: could be a 27.3h.p. Six, 5-seater, Touring Car, a version of which was on sale at W. C. Gaunt of Piccadilly by spring 1923 or the similar new straight 8 version available from them in 1924. Both had very distinctive disc wheels/hubs, curved windscreen supports and wrap-round canvas top rear like this.

Shell had bought into the Bowring’s Mex-spirit business in 1919 but kept the brand name.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cargy wrote:
Or better still, a Packard: could be a 27.3h.p. Six, 5-seater, Touring Car, a version of which was on sale at W. C. Gaunt of Piccadilly by spring 1923 or the similar new straight 8 version available from them in 1924. Both had very distinctive disc wheels/hubs, curved windscreen supports and wrap-round canvas top rear like this.

Shell had bought into the Bowring’s Mex-spirit business in 1919 but kept the brand name.


I agree with your suggestion that what we have here is a 1926 Packard 6 Touring car. 60HP.
May I suggest the man wearing a flat cap is the Chauffeur?

A fascinating period snap shot of what I take to be delivery drivers being loaded up with petrol in cans?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Ray
I presume you mean the Peaked Cap, a flat cap is what many of the loaders appear to be wearing.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Penman wrote:
Hi Ray
I presume you mean the Peaked Cap, a flat cap is what many of the loaders appear to be wearing.


I stand corrected. Yes, a peaked cap would have been worn by a Chauffeur and looks somewhat out of place in that situation.

I am certain that Cargy is right in that the car is a 1926 Packard 6. The absence of white wall tyres on such a prestigious vehicle seems rather odd to me.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vehicles waiting outside the Connsbank Depot of the Mex (McMullan Bros) depot in Belfast late 1920's

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cullies, some discussion on there about what the trucks were but McMullan Bros. Limited of Bridge End, Belfast advertised all its Ford One Ton Trucks for sale, in good condition, in August 1929 having replaced them with larger vehicles probably because by October 1928 they were already using “a fine fleet of up-to-date tank lorries”. Shell-Mex had started selling fuel from Irish roadside pumps by 1923 and sealed and locked petrol pumps by 1926, although some customers still only trusted buying it in red cans.

They had been agents for Mex fuel and oils from 1920 and the two Mex tanks at the “Connswater” site were installed in February 1923. All this suggests the photo is mid-1920s.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2019 7:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The trucks are unquestionably Fords and Model TT. Having owned a couple over the years, I can recognise them and their distinctive features with ease.

I am still inclined to feel that the car could be a Lincoln, but so far can't source photos of a similar car from a similar angle.
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