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Help identifying a prewar caravan, maybe winchester
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 1:54 am    Post subject: Help identifying a prewar caravan, maybe winchester Reply with quote

Hello,
Its a image taken in the RAF Wick airfield, Scotland in April 1940
The image is taken from pinterest, for ilustration/research purposes.
I have searched all over internet, but didn't fin a similar caravan.
It look like some Eccles advertisement images, but the external ribbing, and the front window frame shape and top cover look unique.
Could it be a Winchester caravan?
Other possibility is being a homemade caravan from a published plan?
By the way, the car is a Lagonda 3l (3 litre) sallon, early 1930's.

Please can anyone help on pinpoint the maker and model, or any technical details, like dimensions?

Many thanks!

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't answer any of the questions but I see the same scene in a different photo here: http://www.airportofcroydon.com/RAF.html

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't answer any of the questions but I see the same scene in a different photo here: http://www.airportofcroydon.com/RAF.html

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi
Anyone got an idea about the twin engined job in the background?
3 bladed prop and a glazed nose.
That hut in the background of the coloured pic looks like a typical, traditional shepherd's hut, not somethiing i would expect to see at Croydon so perhaps the Croydon page is just using stock photos.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Penman wrote:
Hi
Anyone got an idea about the twin engined job in the background?
3 bladed prop and a glazed nose.
That hut in the background of the coloured pic looks like a typical, traditional shepherd's hut, not somethiing i would expect to see at Croydon so perhaps the Croydon page is just using stock photos.


The Martin Baltimore looks very similar to the one above

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi
I have got some info on the Hurricane.

Hurricane I - L1822 - 9 FTS - abandoned Dursley, Gloucestershire.

10.09.41 L1822 Hurricane I, 9 FTS, Caught fire & abandoned, Owlpen, Uley


The pilot that baled out of No.9 FTS Hurricane I L1822 was, 1252826 LAC Dennis Erle PIKE RAFVR. The(sic) later, P/O D E Pike (106187), was shot down on 12 February, 1942, during Operation "Fuller". He was flying No.234 Sqn Spitfire Vb AA727, and was posted missing (FCL2/13).
Operation Fuller was to counter the Channel dash by Scharnhorst, Gnei,senau and Prince Eugen.


In 1940 No 9 FTS was based in Hullavington, Wilts.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you'll find that's a Bristol Blenheim MkIV in the background. I don't think Martin Baltimores served in the UK. I do of course reserve the right to be totally wrong.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sid wrote:
I think you'll find that's a Bristol Blenheim MkIV in the background. I don't think Martin Baltimores served in the UK. I do of course reserve the right to be totally wrong.


I'm no expert, but I did find what appears to be a factory-made heavy metal desk model of a Baltimore at a car boot sale, and that's in RAF colours. The arrangement of the glazing up front, looks more Baltimore than Blenheim (either the early or the later version).

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the second page of the link I posted earlier there is a list of aircraft that used Croydon.

http://www.airportofcroydon.com/RAF%202.html

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Penman wrote:
Hi
Anyone got an idea about the twin engined job in the background?
3 bladed prop and a glazed nose.
That hut in the background of the coloured pic looks like a typical, traditional shepherd's hut, not somethiing i would expect to see at Croydon so perhaps the Croydon page is just using stock photos.


The twin engine plane is a Lockheed Hudson.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 12:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It appears that this photo has been the subject of many internet websites.

Here is a rambling thread from 2006.

https://www.pprune.org/archive/index.php/t-223481.html
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the replies!

About the location, from IWM, it looks to be Wick.

https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205441978

https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205441980 (show bellow)

https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205441981

https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205441982

https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205208426

https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205441984


This image is from the IWM site, for research purposes.


The caravan wheels are hidden, whithout acess covers.

Hope it helps!
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