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1942 Commer Q2 30cwt
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Rootes75



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2021 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, finally a garage has been found that will replace the starter ring on the Commer. Over 10 garages phoned and nobody would touch it.

I dropped it off yesterday and it will be done for Friday!

Lets see how it comes out.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, picked up the newly fitted starter ring / flywheel from the garage yesterday morning. What a proper job they have done, I am well pleased.

And all for 54 inc the Vat. I had a really goid xhat with the mechanic who did the job, he's worked at the garage for 35 years!!
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a result isn't it, plus always handy to know where useful mechanics are located if they're ever needed again.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 10:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Picked up and now re-fitted to the Commer.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A morning last Sunday spent re-fitting the clutch, gearbox, prop shaft and starter motor.

Lifting the gearbox in with the crane was a must as its big and very heavy and has to be fed in at an angle due to the gear tower fouling the under side of the metal seat floor.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2021 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We are having issues stripping down our starter motor, the issue being we can't remove the locking pin that holds the sleeve rubber in place, any ideas?


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, after a little bit of work we managed to change the pinion over on the starter.

I took it back down the yard this morning and once fitted she turns over very well, much smoother than she has ever been in our ownership. She started up and sat on tickover until the fuel ran out.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a great result and well worth the effort.

Congratulations!
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ray White wrote:
That's a great result and well worth the effort.

Congratulations!


+1

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Gents, it does make you feel quite good when things like this out.

Both my father and I had big smiles on our faces when that starter was first pushed and she turned over lovely.

Next step, the body is going to be removed so we can start the rub down of the chassis and cab. Some welding is needed here and there and the brake pipes need replacing too.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A good result.. Referring back to my own experience with failed starter rings, perhaps take a look to see if the engine has a tendency to always stop in the same position, it can be a sign of slightly lower compression or valve clearance.
A dab of white paint on the crankshaft pulley will suffice.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2021 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, we still have problems with the engine. When we went down the yard today we couldnt even get her to start.

Firstly we set the timing correctly, she was a fraction out. Then we checked for spark at the plugs and it was very weak. So then we checked the contacts and the spark was awful.

We proceeded to clean and reset the points and we cleaned all the plugs. But upon trying her then she still wouldnt start, we checked the carb and theres fuel getting there and plenty coming out the overflow when she floods!

Its got us scratching our heads again, very frustrating that she starts one week but not the next. Although saying that she didnt run wel when she did start last week. I have a few days off work so the plan is to head back down for another try in the next couple of days.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2021 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I mentioned this before I think, but when I took the AA to the school fayre years ago it was missing and popping like a good 'un, the tiny lead under the dizzy baseplate was flopping around and randomly arcing against the body of the dizzy out of sight. With that replaced it transformed matters.

I assume the fuel is getting as far as the plugs consistently? I saw mention of compressions earlier in the thread.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2021 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rootes, Have you got any interference suppression resistors in the plug leads or coil HT lead? I had strange intermittent misfiring due to one of these breaking up internally.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2021 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

peter scott wrote:
Rootes, Have you got any interference suppression resistors in the plug leads or coil HT lead? I had strange intermittent misfiring due to one of these breaking up internally.

Peter


A friend had problems with the pre-war AC he restored, and it turned out that the suppressor caps were the cause of his issues.

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