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PostPosted: Thu Apr 01, 2021 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very relaxing way to spend an hour I found, very old automotive coaxed back into life Very Happy looking forward to the next episode.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whilst I can accept that as a mass market program there will be inaccuracies (such as that old chestnut of confusing Rated HP and BHP), this series is wont to dip its toe into a great steaming pile of something agricultural.

Last night Abbie Eaton was described by the lady from the museum variously as, something like, 'a living legend', 'currently one of the worlds best racing drivers' and 'the winner of 25 championships. Absolute nonsense. Eaton did well up to national level (winning a second tier saloon championship and a MX-5 championship), but that's about as far as it gets.

Maybe the PC brigade aren't comfortable with the dominance of grey-beards among the volunteers, hence why the previous week they waxed lyrical over Ethel Locke-King, whilst giving barely a brief mention of her husband, whose idea, foresight and money were the genesis of Brooklands.



Next week I am looking forward to them describing how Vera Lynn single-handedly won the Battle of Britain .......
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It has its faults certainly, fortunately the subject matter keeps me watching, even through occasionally gritted teeth.

Try watching that new "Supercars" programme if you can. Dumbed-down doesn't begin to describe it....

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I missed the second episode but I understand it is repeated on Friday. I don't quite know what we are expecting from a TV programme.? It has to have wide appeal and as old car enthusiasts, our interests are, almost by definition, specialised.

I was never a fan of the lady but I fully expect to be told about the late Barbara Cartland's association with Brooklands. There is a re creation of a ladies reading room at the Clubhouse in her honour.

There is a well of history which could be of interest to aviation and motor racing enthusiasts alike; just don't take everything they say as Gospel.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I understand that it's an entertainment for a general audience rather than a documentary for incurable petrolheads such as us, but some level of accuracy shouldn't be too much to expect.

Likewise the museum's staff (I'm not talking about the volunteers here) who appear on the program should surely be able to demonstrate a basic grasp of its subject matter.

Clearly I need to give up my boring job, move 200 miles south and show them what's what ......
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I assume they want to sell the series in North America because I think I heard the term "hood" used to describe the bonnet of cars in this and the previous episode. I wonder if that presenter will start referring to the "liquid" in the fuel as "gas".

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

peter scott wrote:
I assume they want to sell the series in North America because I think I heard the term "hood" used to describe the bonnet of cars in this and the previous episode. I wonder if that presenter will start referring to the "liquid" in the fuel as "gas".

Peter

I must admit that I'd missed that one!.

The RAC Rating / Brake Horse Power confusion crops up on every bloomin old car show and has me shouting at the telly every time (as my wife will attest)

As any fule kno, RAC Rating was for taxation purposes only, calculated as the bore (in proper British inches) squared, multiplied by the number of cylinders, divided by 2.5.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

...at least they haven't described a Morris 1000 as a Vintage car..........................yet. Laughing

Sorry Embarassed
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bengt Axel wrote:

I must admit that I'd missed that one!.


Yes, that's the worrying bit when we don't notice the pollution of our language. Many people this side of the pond no longer realise that licence and license have different meanings.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 12:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

peter scott wrote:
Bengt Axel wrote:

I must admit that I'd missed that one!.


Yes, that's the worrying bit when we don't notice the pollution of our language. Many people this side of the pond no longer realise that licence and license have different meanings.

Peter


Quite right, Peter. One is a verb; the other, a noun.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was starting to lose count of how many times they told us that the woodworm was really serious, and how it could spread to other vehicles. I imagine it's serious, but there's no need to bang on about it quite so much.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As an Austin Swallow owner, I sympathise with the guy. Woodworm is a depressing discovery and difficult to eradicate. When you think you have treated it all you find out you haven't .

My question would be why couldn't they use a proprietary wood worm treatment in the museum? Obviously replace the plywood but soak the Ash frame in woodworm killer.

The air planes were a joy. My Dad would sometimes relate how during the War when he was based at Brooklands (in the Air Defence Training Corp....later to become the ATC) they would use Tiger Moths to train pilots. Just imagine going from one of those to a Spitfire!!

I shared in the sheer delight of the two chaps who got the rare Triumph motorbike running on the track. Rather light on detail but then it's just a TV show.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't understand the reluctance to use woodworm killers either. The flies don't flap their wings so they only transfer to pastures new by dint of drafts.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

peter scott wrote:
I didn't understand the reluctance to use woodworm killers either. The flies don't flap their wings so they only transfer to pastures new by dint of drafts.

Peter.


I didn't know that! Smile
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PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2021 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tonight's episode was rather more interesting than the stupid motorbike football of last week. Although only a replica the Vimy did actually recreate Alcock and Brown's trans-Atlantic flight successfully. I hadn't realised just how large the original was until I saw them extracting the replica from its hanger.

I had previously been a bit confused by the memorial to the landing site that appeared to suggest that they landed within the aerial structure of the Clifden Marconi Wireless Station. What I hadn't realised was that the memorial is now missing the sign on the top that used to point 500 metres away to the actual landing site.

https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/transport-connemara-ireland-a-lady-with-her-donkey-look-at-the-beacon-picture-id78969111?s=2048x2048

https://www.oldclassiccar.co.uk/forum/phpbb/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=22037

There is an interesting eye witness account of the Alcock and Brown landing here:
https://youtu.be/96AWRO9x5k4 It starts at about 5.26.

They had originally planned to land at Galway aerodrome but their wind powered generator failed early into the flight so they had no electricity to power their radio and therefor didn't know whether any of the competing flights for the 10,000 Daily Mail Prize were ahead of them or not so they decided to land at the first opportunity after seeing that they had reached Ireland. Apart from the loss of power for the radio they also had no power for their electrically heated suits so 16 hours in the open cockpit was a real trial.

You can see the arrival of the Brooklands "Vimy" after its Atlantic crossing here: https://youtu.be/3o8Je-Bgkkk

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