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Penman
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With ev's a considerable proportion of owners will be able to refuel their cars at home and may never have to visit a charging station. that's what I call practical.
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must admit that this is only a "back of an envelope" calculation, but, based on where I live I reckon less than half the houses with cars have any off road parking.
That is based on the type of housing. not the people with off road parking but they don't use it.
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Ray White
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peter scott
Joined: 18 Dec 2007
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| Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2021 10:59 am Post subject: |
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I agree that there is a lot of enthusiasm for batteries and I can only hope that it is short lived.
Now should I sell my SS now whilst it still has some value or should I continue to use it and send it to the scrap yard in ten years time?
Peter
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Ray White
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Location: Derby
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| Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2021 11:43 am Post subject: |
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| peter scott wrote: | I agree that there is a lot of enthusiasm for batteries and I can only hope that it is short lived.
Now should I sell my SS now whilst it still has some value or should I continue to use it and send it to the scrap yard in ten years time?
Peter |
I suggest you continue to use your SS until petrol is either unaffordable or unobtainable. By that time you and I will be passed caring.
In ten years time we will probably be among thousands of other old car enthusiasts who will have secured the long term future for Veteran, Vintage and classic cars with a small scale production of petrol or LPG. By then, there may also be a device like a catalytic converter that completely neutralises noxious exhaust gasses.
I think the biggest threat will be from over zealous environmentalists who may try to brow beat motorists into riding push bikes.  |
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alastairq
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Location: East Yorkshire
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| Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2021 1:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | ut simply, hydrogen production is not environmentally friendly |
...and the mining, manufacture, and eventual disposal of lithium batteries is not????
[What, pray, are the living standards like of the miners of most of the world's lithium? Anything like the incomes of oil well drillers, perhaps?]
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alastairq
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| Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2021 1:16 pm Post subject: |
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The answer is.....clockwork?? 
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Ray White
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| Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2021 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="Ray White"] Solid State batteries, for example, represent a paradigm shift in terms of technology which will eventually negate the argument that they are bad for the environment; which they presently are.
Alastair, I think you missed what I said. ^^^ |
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Miken
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Whatever happpens with transport, along with new energy developments, engineering projects and the next decade or 2 being the dawn of new exploration into space (We will be back on the moon this decade and maybe Mars).
I think we are living in a very interesting and exciting period in history. |
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Ray White
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| Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2021 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Miken wrote: | Whatever happpens with transport, along with new energy developments, engineering projects and the next decade or 2 being the dawn of new exploration into space (We will be back on the moon this decade and maybe Mars).
I think we are living in a very interesting and exciting period in history. |
The new energy developments of which you speak are being spearheaded here in the East Midlands with the World's first fusion reactor. I have little reason to be optimistic that it will actually work in practice ...but we have to start somewhere. |
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peter scott
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Quote from another forum. The shape of things to come?
"There is a Nissan Leaf for sale on an electric car only website. Its under £5000 but the range is now 45 miles a 2013 model."
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Ray White
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| Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 12:56 pm Post subject: |
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Nissan has just announced it will be building a new electric car plant in Sunderland.
It wouldn't be doing that without considerable financial support from the Government.
I can't help thinking...British Leyland...DeLorean...
Here we go again.  |
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alastairq
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I guess the spare fuel can of the future will be a box full of PP9s??
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Ray White
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| alastairq wrote: | | I guess the spare fuel can of the future will be a box full of PP9s?? |
No, I don't think so. Cars of the future will have their entire body built as a combination of power storage and solar panels. Some cars already have KERS as used in F1.
Eventually, fully autonomous vehicles will take over but by then I will be long gone. |
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peter scott
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| Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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Probably a petrol generator! 
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Peter_L
Joined: 10 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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Eventually, fully autonomous vehicles will take over but by then I will be long gone. |
Perhaps there is a real danger that future generations will become incapable of making decisions. |
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