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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi
Answer from http://www.sct61.org.uk/msgboard.htm

See Charabanc ID? thread

If it KB 4770 then 1914 Liverpool. But I suspect from the hats and the pneumatics we are post war perhaps Jersey.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi
One answer so far on http://www.sct61.org.uk/msgboard.htm
But only suggesting reg and location.
See Charabanc ID? thread.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

With the shape of the radiator and the wheels I would favour a Dennis.





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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi
It does appear to have the large oval background to the rad badge like the Dennis does.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is a good call, the shape of radiator would suggest Dennis, I cjange my guess!
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I must confess that the appearance of what is on the oval badge doesn't look like Dennis but perhaps it's a reflection of something rather than the lettering.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This photo (which has gone through a modern colourisation process) supposedly shows a 'self built car' in about 1908. Its taken in London Road, Stockton Heath in Cheshire

It is rumoured to have been built by a Tom Astill who is an ancestor of mine. Legend has it that Tom owned the first car in Warrington, a De Dion Bouton in about 1900, though this car is clearly later and may have nothing to do with him

Any clues will be very welcome


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry I can't help, but what a great photograph.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It looks to be too large and sophisticated to be a one-off home-build, but I have no idea what it is, sorry.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Which one of those innocent looking kids has got the "U" in his pocket? Very Happy

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mikeC wrote:
It looks to be too large and sophisticated to be a one-off home-build, but I have no idea what it is, sorry.

I agree, I think its a misunderstanding of the significance of the knocked together wooden seat. Far more likely it is a chassis being driven to a coachbuilder for its body
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe not close enough but how about a Mors?

Taking account of radiator shape, chain drive, 4 cylinder, 10 spokes front, 12 rear.



Not the same but the inlet manifolding on this one is similar (step through the photos at the bottom):

https://www.bonhams.com/auctions/22201/lot/1248/

https://images1.bonhams.com/image?src=Images/live/2014-04/08/8955343-38-10.jpg&width=960

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The step near the top of the radiator is a clue, but it doesn't appear as pronounced as the Mors.

It's got me stumped, so I've thrown it over to The Society of Automotive Historians in Britain, of which I am a member, to see what they think.

Check out their website, https://www.thesahb.com/ it full of fascinating stuff, if you are of a like mind!
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You didn't find the inlet manifold convincing then?

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