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UKdave2002 Guest
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 9:52 am Post subject: Earth Clamps on mig welders |
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I was having difficulty achieving a consistent weld (mig) the other day, the problem was the earth clamp. It struck me that relying on a large crocodile clip (which has minimal surface contact area) to provide a consistent electrical connection (even with all the metal cleaned up) with the high currents required for mig welding will never give you a constant connection and consequently difficult to achieve good consistent welds.
Why do most manufacturers supply these cheap crocodile clips even on more expensive machines? when you can get for about £8 a decent brass screw type clamp.
I welded a temporary stud to the car and put an eye on the earth lead , then bolted the earth lead on, what a difference ,its a bit of a pain to do but if you had a load of welding to do on a car well worth the effort. I have just ordered on of the brass clamps, so I'llsee how I get on with that.
Dave
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john-saab Guest
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 9:56 am Post subject: |
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My local motorfactors sell a crocodile type clamp...but it has a large flat area on the "biting"surface...costs about £8 each but worth it! |
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buzzy bee Guest
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 11:27 pm Post subject: |
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Hi
The earth is the most important bit, the amount of times the earth clamp has welded it's self to my work!
I think that the large metal clips are best, the ones you need two hands to squeeze!
Cheers
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Beetlefan
Joined: 05 May 2008 Posts: 59
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Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 7:23 pm Post subject: Re: Earth Clamps on mig welders |
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UKdave2002 wrote: | I was having difficulty achieving a consistent weld (mig) the other day, the problem was the earth clamp. It struck me that relying on a large crocodile clip (which has minimal surface contact area) to provide a consistent electrical connection (even with all the metal cleaned up) with the high currents required for mig welding will never give you a constant connection and consequently difficult to achieve good consistent welds.
Why do most manufacturers supply these cheap crocodile clips even on more expensive machines? when you can get for about £8 a decent brass screw type clamp.
I welded a temporary stud to the car and put an eye on the earth lead , then bolted the earth lead on, what a difference ,its a bit of a pain to do but if you had a load of welding to do on a car well worth the effort. I have just ordered on of the brass clamps, so I'llsee how I get on with that.
Dave |
Dave I grind the paint,rust etc off then clamp some mole grips to the cleanrd Metal and then clamp the welding clamps to the Vice grips this should give you a perfect "Earth"!! |
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Roverron
Joined: 04 May 2008 Posts: 134 Location: Yorkshire
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Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 5:46 pm Post subject: |
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My father had a blacksmith's shop, when arc welders became more popular he made an all-steel table to which he fixed the earth from his welder. One day a dog wandered in and cocked his leg against the table. My father wasn't a cruel man but he touched the dog on its back with the welding rod thus completing the circuit. The floor surace was quite poor and the poor dog coudn't get a grip with his paws; his legs were going really quickly but he stayed put sort of spinning his wheels. _________________ To Hell with ambition, it drives a man mad, I can scarcely wake up to be fed. |
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wrinx
Joined: 22 Jun 2008 Posts: 142 Location: Derbyshire
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Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 9:31 pm Post subject: |
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Novel idea...but can't help being cynical:
Clamp
wrinx _________________ www.alfaromeo155.co.uk | www.alfamatta.co.uk
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Greeney in France
Joined: 06 Mar 2008 Posts: 1173 Location: Limousin area of France
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Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 6:04 am Post subject: |
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Very easily made with a speaker magnet for free, it would still need a good earth but at least you wouldnt have to look for somewhere the clamp will fit,
DA the panel to clean metal clamp it on!
I have a few old speaker magnets I use for picking up fallen bit I will give it a go _________________ www.OldFrenchCars.com
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