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[buzzy bee]

Hi

I got an old Plane, but has a nast crack in it, can't grow any more, but it is causing another crack to start, so want to weld the first crack up, any advice?

Cheers

Dave

[Greeney in France]

Buy a wooden one
I have seen people try to braze them but its not very successful and you have to think of the tolerances of the frog and throat, speaking as an ex chippy, bin it and buy one from a boot fair, the old "stanley" planes are best, look for the ones with wooden handles not plastic
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[peter scott]

Hi Dave,

Here are some of links to digest..

Peter

http://www.mig-welding.co.uk/cast-iron.htm

http://www.thewelderswarehouse.com/Welding/Stainless_Steel.html

http://www.thewelderswarehouse.com/Welding/Cast_Iron_Electrodes__10-_pack_.html

[buzzy bee]

Hi

This is an old Stanley Bailey, no. 5 I think, I was going to have a go at cast welding, or if I could watch someone do it, as I am intrigued by it.

The Frog, and handle all fits, it just has a crack in it, it still works, but every pass you do, puts stress on a new crack that is forming, so welding the orriginal will stop the old one growing. I was going to drill the end of the new one, and if needed run a weld into that too.

Thanks for the links, I will try to post a picture to explain it better.

(Greeny, if you are into wood work, I got a Stanley 51 52 shooting board a year or two ago, but sold it on as never used it, how much do you think it cost me?££££)

Cheers

Dave

[Greeney in France]

They are lovely pieces of engineering I have never owned a stanley bailey but had a wooden version I used to do most of my work for english heritage working on places like hampton court etc so no machines allowed real hand stuff...
As you are sounding "chuffed" I would guess you paid something like £50 but I know they are fetching 10times that for a used condition one and probably near a £1000
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[buzzy bee]

Hi

I went to a garage sale to help a friend lift a flypress, and there was an inveter, selling his tools off. He was charging silly prices, but saw this Shooting board, asked about it, and he said, well... That is a collectors piece. I thought here we go, he then said, I am afraid I want £50 for it!

I had about £20 with me, so I drove home and back to his garage, rather quickly, before he sold it to someone else, got back and he said, I have done a bit of research on the internet, and they are quite valuable. Damn! I asked, how much then, he said £60, in the end i got it for £55.

Was more than chuffed that week!

Your job sounded interesting, what sort of work did you undertake?

Cheers

Dave

[Greeney in France]

Apart from a lot of historical buildings I spent 3 years at HC where my team and I rebuilt the kings bedroom originally william of orange but found and restored a lot of Henry stuff underneath, some work in the chapel and Cardinal Wolseys room also 18months at Windsor castle after the fire, spent nearly a year on the house of lords and parliament when TV was allowed in as corridors and extra rooms had to be created, and sections of linenfold panelling had to be remade in the main halls, I watch the televised house sometimes and shout "I DID THAT"
If you know the madam toussards I built and installed the revolving doors
The 10ft high pair of gates on the Royal academy
I could go on...
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[Roverron]

You can get welding rods for cast and it would be worth a go. All you've got to loose is the cost of the rod. Really the plane would need to be preheated first, but I'd have a go without.
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[welder]

I'd TIG weld it, using stainless steel filler wire, after pre-warming using a blowtorch of some sort.

Ian

[oldgoaly]

piston rings (cast iron ones) make good filler, I have used Peterson's welding flux and cast iron rods to repair many cast iron toys and car parts. A oxy-acetylene torch (a henrob) works for me. pre and post heat are very important. Also to stop the crack from running, drill a small hole at the end of crack, this relieves the stress somewhat. btw i'm in the flatlands here in the states. Take care! tt

[peter scott]

This looks interesting. It's brazing rather than welding:

http://www.aluminiumrepair.co.uk/html/hts-528_information.html