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MikeEdwards



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Announced today that the Vulcan will be appearing at (or over) the Pageant of Power at Cholmondeley Castle in June.
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PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2015 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The appearance at CPOP I mentioned before is only a fly-past, it has a busy day doing Cosford and Welshpool air shows on the same day.

Sad to hear the announcement that this year will be the last flying year for XH558.
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PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2015 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is that it for flying Vulcans after that Mike?

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PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2015 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kevin2306 wrote:
Is that it for flying Vulcans after that Mike?

Kev


Yup, 558 is the last flying Vulc .. Sad

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PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2015 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rick wrote:
kevin2306 wrote:
Is that it for flying Vulcans after that Mike?

Kev


Yup, 558 is the last flying Vulc .. Sad

RJ


Doesn't make sense why, given today's technology, we can't keep them going indefinitely, Concorde is another example of something I'd like to see flying again. Money orientated I suppose as per normal.

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PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2015 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kevin2306 wrote:
Rick wrote:
kevin2306 wrote:
Is that it for flying Vulcans after that Mike?

Kev


Yup, 558 is the last flying Vulc .. Sad

RJ


Doesn't make sense why, given today's technology, we can't keep them going indefinitely, Concorde is another example of something I'd like to see flying again. Money orientated I suppose as per normal.

Kev


I suspect that it tends to be the companies tasked with signing-off the safety & tech side of things getting the jitters, especially when the technology is generations old, and people with the firsthand experience of it are getting harder to find, that leads to permission to fly being withdrawn. That, plus as you rightly say finding the £ to keep up with the maintenance and fuel bills!!

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PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2015 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, as the majority of aircraft components have a definitive service life and must be replaced for age, the cost of doing so is a major issue. As great as the Vulcan is, there are many other aircraft no longer flying that would deserve to be if the money were around and the parts could be made - Concorde being a good example.

There are so many rumours of political issues surrounding getting Concorde back in the air that it's hard (for a layman such as myself) to get to the bottom of why it's not possible, but the longer they sit around without proper maintenance, the harder and more expensive that gets.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We saw the Vulcan yesterday at Weston Super Mare, lovely sight in the afternoon sunshine and what a sound. If it is the last year of it flying it will be a shame but I can understand why.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2015 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Saw her again at Yeovilton Airday, lovely sight. She flew with a Sea Vixen too which was very impressive.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 12, 2015 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

558 will be at RIAT next weekend flying in formation with the Red Arrows - guess who is going on Sunday... Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Notice issued by the 558 team today:

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Please do not come to see XH558 take-off and land.

A meeting earlier this week between the Trust, the Emergency Services including the South Yorkshire Police, Doncaster Council and the Airport has made it clear that XH558’s huge popularity could put her final flights at risk.

The clear message from all of them is that unless supporters choose other ways to see her fly, the Trust will be asked to cancel further flying. Correspondence has been received that also makes it clear that the Trust could also be liable for very substantial costs if safety is deemed to be at risk. “The situation we find ourselves in is a tremendous complement to the passion and energy of XH558’s supporters, many of whom have donated time and money to allow her to fly,” says Trust chief executive Dr. Robert Pleming. “As someone who has devoted a significant portion of his life to this aircraft, I fully understand. But I must ask everyone please, do not come to Robin Hood to see her take-off and land. If you do, and the numbers are vast, the police have stated that they may well have no option but to lock down the airport, the financial consequences of which to the Trust would be terminal.”

Robin Hood Doncaster Sheffield is an operational international airport that relies on free passenger flow in and out. If there is an incident with an aircraft, emergency services must have fast, uninterrupted access. The police have told us that they have a legal responsibility to ensure that emergency access points are clear of obstructions. Emergency services have pointed out that fire and ambulance access to local homes must be guaranteed.

Steve Gill, director of Doncaster Sheffield Airport said: "We are extremely proud to have the last flying Vulcan based at Doncaster Sheffield Airport and have worked closely with the team at the VTST around her last flights. "They are providing a number of opportunities for spectators and loyal supporters to see the Vulcan in her last flying tours. These opportunities will be right across the country and have been designed so that they do not cause disruption at Doncaster Sheffield Airport.

"As an operational airport our number one priority is our passengers and our relationships with our airline partners. We urge people to listen to the pleas from the Vulcan team and the police and not travel to Doncaster to see the Vulcan but to maximise the opportunities available elsewhere."

Police Supt Rollitt states, although I understand the passion of the supporters of the Vulcan, over the past few months as we approach its final flights, more and more spectators have turned up at events where the Vulcan has been. This has started to overwhelm local authorities and emergency services. My first priority is ensuring the safety of all road users and local communities. Doncaster airport is a small commercial airport that can accommodate its passengers, however the infrastructure around it cannot accommodate a large influx of people hoping to see the Vulcan. The Vulcan trust have worked with us to satisfy the safety issue by providing a flight timetable to ensure that members of the public will get see the final flights from other vantage points around the country.

Caroline Rollitt
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Spectacular Final Cross-Country Tour

Chief Pilot Martin Withers is spending time optimising the North and South Tours planned for October 10 and 11 so that as many people as possible can see her fly at least one more time. “Both flights are now amongst the longest she has undertaken since the restoration,” says Martin. “We will be releasing the routes next week as soon as they are approved by all the relevant external authorities.”

Flight information via Twitter and Facebook will be the main mechanisms for ensuring that XH558’s supporters know where she is and where she is heading. Do please try to witness these wonderful final cross-country flights, rather than travelling to Doncaster. It is hoped that, weather allowing, the final few flights will be after the tour, later in October.

For the avoidance of doubt, contrary to speculation seen on the internet, there will be no Vulcan sortie on Sunday 18th October.

“It is absolutely imperative that we show the airport and the emergency services that XH558’s supporters are responsible, understand the safety needs of the airport and will willingly forego attempts to see a take-off or landing at Doncaster,” concludes Robert Pleming. “We must start immediately, with this weekend’s flight, and show the authorities that we should be allowed to continue to fly this remarkable aircraft as long as we are able to delight all her supporters across the country.”
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Such a shame that its the last flight, she is such a crowd puller at all the shows we've been to.

Is this really it or if funding changes will she fly again in years to come?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Such a shame that its the last flight, she is such a crowd puller at all the shows we've been to.

Is this really it or if funding changes will she fly again in years to come?


The key technical authorities (eg Rolls-Royce, and Airbus) who sign it off every year, are pulling the plug, without their ok it's curtains for future flights. From what I've read, 558 is by some margin the highest hours Vulcan of all, another reason for its imminent retirement.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 04, 2015 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keep an eye out for the routes of the farewell tour.
10th October will be the North route
11th will be the south route

This is pending flight clearance, if the south route is correct and kept as per plan It will be almost over my house, but I know plenty of possible open viewing points over East Anglia so hope to get some good viewing.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The farewell tour route for the Northern area:

https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=zJoGZd3-Qg5U.k9_QAWQWnmes

and for the Southern:

https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=zJoGZd3-Qg5U.k3u8IUZTll6M
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