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Rick Site Admin
Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 22446 Location: UK
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 4:31 pm Post subject: Seabrook tools and cars |
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Neil dropped me a line with this question, does anyone know of this firm?
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Hi I have some old tools made by Seabrook Bros and I cannot find any info other than whats in the subject line above.
The tools are bicycle tools and the company is proving to be very difficult to track down. Have you heard of them? or even better still do you have any links etc where I might gain some info.
Any help will much appreciated
regards
Neil Mackay _________________ Rick - Admin
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Rick Site Admin
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mikeC
Joined: 31 Jul 2009 Posts: 1775 Location: Market Warsop, Nottinghamshire
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Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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OK. Watch this space!
I did quite a bit of research on the Seabrook brothers, having rescued the remains of a 1923 Seabrook 9/19 from the bleak Durham moors back in the early 1970s.
The poor old thing was really too far gone, and had it been, say, a bullnose Morris, it would have been dismantled for the parts. Since, however, it appeared to be the sole survivor (and still appears to be!) it has been preserved in a state of limbo for the last thirty-plus years.
A couple of years ago my brother took the thing over, and actually started to make progress, but now a Frazer Nash has muscled in on his time, so progress has stopped for the moment.
Anyway, I will dig out the info I have, and post it here shortly... |
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peter scott
Joined: 18 Dec 2007 Posts: 7118 Location: Edinburgh
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Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Mike,
If your avatar is anything to go by it looks great.
Welcome to the forum.
Peter _________________ http://www.nostalgiatech.co.uk
1939 SS Jaguar 2 1/2 litre saloon |
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mikeC
Joined: 31 Jul 2009 Posts: 1775 Location: Market Warsop, Nottinghamshire
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Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 7:25 am Post subject: |
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Hi Peter, thanks for the welcome.
No, the avatar is a 1922 Star 11.9hp, which I bought with 12,000 miles under its belt, and sold a couple of year's ago with 18,000 miles showing.
Having added 50% of its mileage, I decided it was better for someone else to slow things down |
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roverdriver
Joined: 18 Oct 2008 Posts: 1210 Location: 100 miles from Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
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Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 10:42 am Post subject: |
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Searching in the Georgano encyclopedia, I found this-
Seabrook (GB) 1920-1928
(1) Seabrook Bros Ltd, London EC 1920-1926
(2) Seabrook Bros Ltd, London S.W.3 1926-1928
Seabrook Bros were a firm of motor factors who imported the Regal (later RMC) before the war, and began to make their own car in 1920. This was an advanced machine with an 11.9 hp 4-cylinder engine using aluminium pistons and cylinder head. It proved too expensive to make, and was replaced in 1921 by a 9.8 hp model with a Dorman engine. In 1923 an 11.9 hp Meadows-engined model was added, which became the only model from 1925 onwards. _________________ Dane- roverdriver but not a Viking. |
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mikeC
Joined: 31 Jul 2009 Posts: 1775 Location: Market Warsop, Nottinghamshire
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Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 8:22 pm Post subject: |
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roverdriver wrote: | Searching in the Georgano encyclopedia, I found this-
Seabrook (GB) 1920-1928
(1) Seabrook Bros Ltd, London EC 1920-1926
(2) Seabrook Bros Ltd, London S.W.3 1926-1928
Seabrook Bros were a firm of motor factors who imported the Regal (later RMC) before the war, and began to make their own car in 1920. This was an advanced machine with an 11.9 hp 4-cylinder engine using aluminium pistons and cylinder head. It proved too expensive to make, and was replaced in 1921 by a 9.8 hp model with a Dorman engine. In 1923 an 11.9 hp Meadows-engined model was added, which became the only model from 1925 onwards. |
Yes, but... that's not too accurate!
They started in the late 19th century as cycle factors (possibly manufacturers, but probably not), were UK agents for a number of American cars and lorries pre First World War, adding their name in some instances - there were Seabrook lorries and Underslungs (RMCs). Post war, as far as I could establish, there was just one prototype light car built with their own alloy engine, this being a 1500cc overhead cam unit. The 1921 car was Dorman-engined, but this was catalogued as the 10hp. The 9.8hp was introduced in 1923, and swiftly renamed the 9/19 (this being the model I found), and was fitted with the 1200cc 4EB Meadows engine. The 12/24 of the same period had the 1500cc Meadows 4EC engine, and a 12/40 model was catalogued (presumably with the Meadows 4ED engine) in 1927, though whether any were built is doubtful.
All my references are boxed up at the moment whilst I decorate the study, so give me a few more days, and I will try and add some more flesh to that summary. |
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buzzy bee
Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 3382 Location: South Cheshire
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Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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Hi
Slightly off topic, maybe you could post it elsewhere, do you have any pics of your old star, bigger than your avatar? A friend has an early Star car.
Cheers
Dave |
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mikeC
Joined: 31 Jul 2009 Posts: 1775 Location: Market Warsop, Nottinghamshire
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Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 9:59 am Post subject: |
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buzzy bee wrote: | Hi
Slightly off topic, maybe you could post it elsewhere, do you have any pics of your old star, bigger than your avatar? A friend has an early Star car.
Cheers
Dave |
Hi Dave,
I have posted a short history of my Star in the Classic & Vintage Cars section. Hope you enjoy it |
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mikeC
Joined: 31 Jul 2009 Posts: 1775 Location: Market Warsop, Nottinghamshire
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Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 12:28 pm Post subject: |
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Back to Seabrooks, here are photos of our car as it was in 2007, and of a similar car taken in 1923 to show what it should look like:
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peter scott
Joined: 18 Dec 2007 Posts: 7118 Location: Edinburgh
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Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 5:57 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Mike,
Your's looks to be more sporting than the one in the second photo although it also appears to have been used competitively.
Peter _________________ http://www.nostalgiatech.co.uk
1939 SS Jaguar 2 1/2 litre saloon |
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buzzy bee
Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 3382 Location: South Cheshire
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Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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Hi
Thanks for the history in the other thread!
Cheers
Dave |
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mikeC
Joined: 31 Jul 2009 Posts: 1775 Location: Market Warsop, Nottinghamshire
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Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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peter scott wrote: | Hi Mike,
Your's looks to be more sporting than the one in the second photo although it also appears to have been used competitively.
Peter |
No, Peter, it's just that the steering box and column are only balanced in position - I suspect Tony is trying out a more sporting seating position 'cos it may well end up as a sporting version
As far as I know, the 9/19 was only produced in chummy 4-seater form. |
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RoyS
Joined: 12 Aug 2009 Posts: 2
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Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 10:30 pm Post subject: Re: Seabrook tools and cars |
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Hi, Neil
I am Roy Seabrook and Percy Seabrook was my grandfather. I know little about him and am very keen to find out about any of the bicycles and cars that he made in the early 1900s . Really interested to know what bits and pieces you have and any any info. on the Seabrook brothers.
Looking forward to hearing from you,
RoyS.
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Hi I have some old tools made by Seabrook Bros and I cannot find any info other than whats in the subject line above.
The tools are bicycle tools and the company is proving to be very difficult to track down. Have you heard of them? or even better still do you have any links etc where I might gain some info.
Any help will much appreciated
regards
Neil Mackay[/quote] |
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RoyS
Joined: 12 Aug 2009 Posts: 2
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Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 10:39 pm Post subject: Seabrook cars |
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Hi, MikeC
Great to read your info. on the Seabrook Bros. My name is Roy Seabrook and Percy Seabrook was my grandfather but I don't know a great deal about his business. Was the photo of you in your garage in 2007 a Seabrook car?
Perhaps we can make contact
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