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		| Rick Site Admin
 
  
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		| BigJohn 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 5:34 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| You've not picked the best looking example as an illustration there Boss.   Some fair shed work gone into the accessories.
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		| Rick Site Admin
 
  
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		| BigJohn 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 6:47 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Toss of the coin there, but I have always considered the poor little Mayflower a Standard Flying 10 that drove around inside a garden shed! |  | 
	
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		| emmerson 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 6:53 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| What can one say about the Mayflower? Not a lot really. I had one for a very short time in about 1970. I gave it up as I was commuting about 25 miles a day and to be honest, the 1200 side valve motor and abysmal three speed box just weren't up to the job. It was a fairly heavy little car anyway, due to the attempted up-market interior,(and separate chassis IIRC) so its performance was somewhat lacking. I'm afraid that for me, on a scale of ten, it only warrants a three!
 My apologies to all the Mayflower owners out there!
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		| Phil - Nottingham 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 7:56 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| The so called Razor Edge styling was not popular and more suited anyway to larger saloons such as the Triumph Renown/1800 and Rolls Royce coach built limo bodies. 
 The engine was far too small
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		| ukdave2002 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 7:58 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Does the Mayflower have any redeeming features ? Poor thing seems to have got the short straw on all fronts  |  | 
	
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		| Peter_L 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 7:59 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I had one for a few months back in the late 60's. Only because I bought it for £10 and my 2 Minis were not running. 
 It was very comfortable to sit in, just as well as it took longer to get to work.  Maybe the power output was below normal, but I did change my route to work in order to avoid two fairly steep hills and a Halt sign on an upward slope. It meant more miles but was slightly quicker.
 
 I sold it on to a Mayflower fan for  $25, but the extra petrol I had consumed likely wiped out any profit.
 
 ........  oh and there was more room in the back.
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		| Ellis 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 9:03 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Every Triumph Mayflower I remember seeing in the 1960's all seemed to be grey in colour with red interiors. _________________
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		| Richard H 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 9:24 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I love them! Always fancied one, I think they're cute and I've always been a fan of unloved cars (I feel sorry for them). I look on them as being a more affordable pre war small Standard, if you look at them as being older than they are then hopefully the performance won't disappoint too much? I came close to buying one a few years ago, for sale at a number plate dealer, but the engine was noisy and smoky (and the bodywork quite rusty) so I walked away.
 Funnily enough I picked up an old Practical Classics at the boot sale on Sunday purely because it had a Mayflower buyers guide in it. It made me remember how much I want one. Does anyone want an FE Victor?
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		| clan chieftain 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 9:29 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I haven't seen one for ages but I always fancied one. Did it have the same engine as the Flying 10.? _________________
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		| goneps 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 10:35 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| My most persistent memory of it is as the car of choice for George and Gaye Gambol, of the strip cartoon in the Daily Express—until they went all modern and switched to an Imp. 
 Some call the styling quirky, but to my eye that grille and bonnet are catastrophically ugly and incongruous.
 
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		| Peter_L 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 10:51 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | Ellis wrote: |  	  | Every Triumph Mayflower I remember seeing in the 1960's all seemed to be grey in colour with red interiors. | 
 
 The one I had (see earlier post) was Dark Green with a Beige Interior.
 
 I think it was an attempt to replicate the sharp features of up market cars. There was also another not very successful Renown.
 
 I don't think there is any manufacturer that never produced a car that failed.
 
 Car buyers are a funny lot.....
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		| Bitumen Boy 
 
 
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				|  	  | clan chieftain wrote: |  	  | I haven't seen one for ages but I always fancied one. Did it have the same engine as the Flying 10.? | 
 
 I believe the engine was unique to the Mayflower; but interestingly it was effectively reverse engineered from an OHV unit that ST were selling to Morgan at the time. Also, I think the gearbox was unique in being the first - and possibly only - all synchromesh three speed. This was deemed necessary as the engine had so little grunt that downshifts to first on the move were often necessary, despite a low final drive ratio. The same 'box found a home in the Standard Vanguard, IIRC.
 
 I always liked the styling, but I don't think I could live with one. Wheezy little sidevalve engines and a three speed column change gearbox doesn't add up to something that would be practical around the Valleys. I wonder if anyone ever fitted later running gear to one..?
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		| Peter_L 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 12:08 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I guess these are the people who would know who did what, when and to which vehicle. http://www.triumphmayflowerclub.com/
 
 Just goes to show that there is no such thing as an "ugly puppy". Someone will always love it.
 
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