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Rootes75
Joined: 30 Apr 2013 Posts: 3828 Location: The Somerset Levels
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Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 8:20 am Post subject: |
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I watched Goblin works up till they bought the 2CV van, it was cringe worthy and so fake. I can't stand them chopping about perfectly good vehicles.
I did however catch 20 mins of Jay Leno's Garage, that was a bit different and quite interesting. _________________ Various Rootes Vehicles. |
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Rick Site Admin
Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 22454 Location: UK
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Ashley
Joined: 02 Jan 2008 Posts: 1426 Location: Near Stroud, Glos
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Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 11:08 am Post subject: |
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Ray White wrote: | What puzzled me was they were attempting to get the best 0-60 from the Datsun at Rockingham but all the weight saving was compromised because they tested the car two up.!
As to the 2CV van. I am yet to be convinced these things are in any way safe. My brother in law nearly lost his life when someone jumped a red light and smashed into the 2CV he was driving. The bodywork literally disintegrated and he was left sitting in the middle of the road holding onto the steering wheel with nothing left of the car that could be recognised. It might have looked funny - like something out of a cartoon - but he wasn't laughing.
The only time I drove a 2CV it frightened the life out of me. The thing rolled on corners like a boat at sea. The French are welcome to them as far as I am concerned. |
They’re fantastic, incredibly reliable, comfortable and ride beautifully. It’s true they roll, but it’s fun and the handling is completely safe.
I doubt they’re any less safe than a Mini or an Escort MK1 either. All old cars are vulnerable to side impact.
What so irritated me was that those buffoons simply used the ride height adjustment to lower the van, which means it would bottom out all the time, especially if they loaded the back.
Also wider tyres will ruin the ride and make the steering heavier.
It’s frightful along with that screaming cockney and the American chap. |
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Ray White
Joined: 02 Dec 2014 Posts: 6330 Location: Derby
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Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 12:04 pm Post subject: |
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Firstly, may I apologise for my rubbishing the iconic 2CV. It wouldn't be my first choice but that doesn't matter. For countless folk the little French car has been cheap and cheerful transport and they are also a mechanical wonder.
I only watched the Goblin programme because I heard about it on here. I thought it couldn't possibly be that bad. How wrong I was. I have never understood why people who want a fast car (presumably because they don't leave themselves enough time to get wherever they are going) don't just buy one. There are plenty of quick cars about these days. There is absolutely no need to deplete further the stock of surviving old cars. I entirely agree with everything that has been said about ruining the cars that they have been involved with.
I won't be watching again. |
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colwyn500
Joined: 21 Oct 2012 Posts: 1745 Location: Nairn, Scotland
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Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 1:31 pm Post subject: |
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Ray White wrote: | I have never understood why people who want a fast car (presumably because they don't leave themselves enough time to get wherever they are going) don't just buy one. There are plenty of quick cars about these days. There is absolutely no need to deplete further the stock of surviving old cars. I entirely agree with everything that has been said about ruining the cars that they have been involved with.
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How much I agree with that!
I might even have to quote you on another Forum, with your permission Ray. The Fiat 500 crowd, obviously dealing with a similarly low-powered car, seem largely obsessed with upgrading the performance well beyond design and handling limits. For many people it's the iconic appearance of a car that they love rather than savouring that alongside the excellence of the mechanical solutions devised with the materials and technology of the time.
I keep hearing these programmes (and Forums) talking about making cars "suitable for modern traffic" and yet I rarely see any old cars in any sort of traffic" |
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alastairq
Joined: 14 Oct 2016 Posts: 1955 Location: East Yorkshire
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Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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I Have the remains of a 126 Bis....it does have a competition history, of sorts [not the pretty sort]
I bought it to weld up [panels are cheap]....maybe fit a small japanese supercharger to the engine [a Lancia product]....with a slightly beefier drive train..and go classic reliability trialling in it...[roof, makes it more cosy for an auldfahrt]
I spotted on farcebuuk, someone had fitted a Skoda 1.3 engine/transaxle into one.....seemed to go well....I happen to have a knarckered Rapid, with a 136 engine, strong gearbox [and bike carbs ] hanging about....
If only I can find the time to get started on it?? |
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Ray White
Joined: 02 Dec 2014 Posts: 6330 Location: Derby
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Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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colwyn500 wrote: | Ray White wrote: | I have never understood why people who want a fast car (presumably because they don't leave themselves enough time to get wherever they are going) don't just buy one. There are plenty of quick cars about these days. There is absolutely no need to deplete further the stock of surviving old cars. I entirely agree with everything that has been said about ruining the cars that they have been involved with.
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How much I agree with that!
I might even have to quote you on another Forum, with your permission Ray. The Fiat 500 crowd, obviously dealing with a similarly low-powered car, seem largely obsessed with upgrading the performance well beyond design and handling limits. For many people it's the iconic appearance of a car that they love rather than savouring that alongside the excellence of the mechanical solutions devised with the materials and technology of the time.
I keep hearing these programmes (and Forums) talking about making cars "suitable for modern traffic" and yet I rarely see any old cars in any sort of traffic" |
Of course you can quote me colwyn500 (sorry, I can't remember your name) and I just hope you have some success in getting the message across. I think it is probably a lost cause in the U.S.A. but as we don't need to slavishly copy the yanks at everything they do perhaps there is still hope here. The Fiat 500 needs nothing more than someone to love it for what it is. All I can say is that until you have driven one you haven't lived! They are absolutely brilliant little cars and although not that fast are fabulously nippy in traffic. Parking is a doddle. The nearest thing I ever came to owning one was my Isetta 300 which shared many of the advantages of the Fiat but was just too small to carry many passengers!!! |
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Rootes75
Joined: 30 Apr 2013 Posts: 3828 Location: The Somerset Levels
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Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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Watching Jay Leno's garage, its growing on me. Not focusing on one thing and a lot more explanation of how things work and their histories. _________________ Various Rootes Vehicles. |
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consul 57
Joined: 09 Nov 2017 Posts: 488 Location: somerset
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Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 9:46 pm Post subject: |
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Rootes75 wrote: | Watching Jay Leno's garage, its growing on me. Not focusing on one thing and a lot more explanation of how things work and their histories. |
i agree a very interesting program for a change! |
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Ashley
Joined: 02 Jan 2008 Posts: 1426 Location: Near Stroud, Glos
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Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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Anyone watched Hoovies Garage on YouTube because he’s very funny and entertaining. |
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Rootes75
Joined: 30 Apr 2013 Posts: 3828 Location: The Somerset Levels
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Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 11:03 pm Post subject: |
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Just watched the new Car SOS, doing a lovely Austin Tilly van. Very good show and they tried to keep the original patina. _________________ Various Rootes Vehicles. |
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Rick Site Admin
Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 22454 Location: UK
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lowdrag
Joined: 10 Apr 2009 Posts: 1585 Location: Le Mans
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Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:51 am Post subject: |
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I've watch two episodes of the new Top Gear. That is to say I fell asleep during two episodes of the new Top Gear. Tying two cars together to learn drifting was better than a sleeping pill. |
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Ray White
Joined: 02 Dec 2014 Posts: 6330 Location: Derby
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Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 10:13 am Post subject: |
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I saw part of Top Gear. The new McLaren was put through it's paces. I lost interest after that. |
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consul 57
Joined: 09 Nov 2017 Posts: 488 Location: somerset
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Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 11:41 am Post subject: |
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Rootes75 wrote: | Just watched the new Car SOS, doing a lovely Austin Tilly van. Very good show and they tried to keep the original patina. |
i thought the tilly resto was actualy the best car sos prog by far.
fantomworks garage, in usa, seems to be getting better a bit! |
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