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Ray White
Joined: 02 Dec 2014 Posts: 6319 Location: Derby
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Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 10:26 am Post subject: |
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Penguin45 wrote: | The 'Crab has a transvers engine, mounted on rubbers and they do rock a little. The front pipe is clamped at the manifold and on a bracket at the back end of the gearbox. There has to be a flex point after that to allow for the rocking motion. This can be a spiral wound flexi, or a ball joint. Either way, neither one works well, as the spiral type splits apart quickly and the last ball joint one just separated after less that 1000 miles.
The one above will still swivel, but the springs and bolts mechanically hold the thing together. £20 from a local exhaust place.
Off to the NEC shortly, so we'll see if it stays together.
P45.
(I'll be on the Wolseley Owners Club stand - come and say hello!) |
I remember the mini/ 1100 exhaust manifolds having a similar problem. Could you perhaps fit a telescopic damper between the engine and body? |
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Bitumen Boy
Joined: 26 Jan 2012 Posts: 1735 Location: Above the snow line in old Monmouthshire
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Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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Ray White wrote: | Penguin45 wrote: | The 'Crab has a transvers engine, mounted on rubbers and they do rock a little. The front pipe is clamped at the manifold and on a bracket at the back end of the gearbox. There has to be a flex point after that to allow for the rocking motion. This can be a spiral wound flexi, or a ball joint. Either way, neither one works well, as the spiral type splits apart quickly and the last ball joint one just separated after less that 1000 miles.
The one above will still swivel, but the springs and bolts mechanically hold the thing together. £20 from a local exhaust place.
Off to the NEC shortly, so we'll see if it stays together.
P45.
(I'll be on the Wolseley Owners Club stand - come and say hello!) |
I remember the mini/ 1100 exhaust manifolds having a similar problem. Could you perhaps fit a telescopic damper between the engine and body? |
I had the same problem recur constantly on a Mini. Really it needed new bushes fitted to the steady bar on the RHS, but all the fasteners were rusted up solid and, because it was all mounted in common with the master cylinders, sorting that out properly would have been a major job.
Fortunately there were (and probably still are) aftermarket supplementary steady bars available. Very simple but fabricated from heavy gauge steel, one end bolted to the bulkhead where the master cylinders would fit on a LHD car, while the other had three fixing points to the engine - one of the manifold studs and two of the thermostat housing studs. The two ends were then united with a hefty piece of threaded rod - IIRC it was about 5/8 diameter, but don't quote me on that - assembled to suit with nuts, heavy washers and big rubber bushes. It looked rather crude but it worked just fine, the exhaust stopped giving trouble and the car was easier to drive smoothly to boot.
As I say it was very simple really, and it probably wouldn't be too hard to knock up something similar for another car that was prone to the same trouble. |
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emmerson
Joined: 30 Sep 2008 Posts: 1268 Location: South East Wales
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Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 11:06 am Post subject: |
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I cured my mini by fitting two rods from the plate on the bottom of the gear change forward to the edge of the sub-frame. Three eight rod with washers welded on and rubber bushes. Job done! |
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Ray White
Joined: 02 Dec 2014 Posts: 6319 Location: Derby
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Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 11:09 am Post subject: |
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emmerson wrote: | I cured my mini by fitting two rods from the plate on the bottom of the gear change forward to the edge of the sub-frame. Three eight rod with washers welded on and rubber bushes. Job done! |
That's what I would have done too. |
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MVPeters
Joined: 28 Aug 2008 Posts: 822 Location: Northern MA, USA
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Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 2:26 pm Post subject: |
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Once upon a time, tapered cone inserts for the steady bar rubber bushes were readily available. They worked well & avoided some dis-assembly.
Less effective was a bar that bolted to the underside of the gearbox. _________________ Mike - MVPeters at comcast.net
2002 MINI Cooper 'S' |
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47Jag
Joined: 26 Jun 2008 Posts: 1480 Location: Bothwell, Scotland
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Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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I recall my 1966 Austin 1800 did have a horizontal damper.
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Rootes75
Joined: 30 Apr 2013 Posts: 3819 Location: The Somerset Levels
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Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2019 2:15 pm Post subject: |
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We had timing issues when we took the Commer out round the yard, we spent this morning checking for stuck valves and re-checking the distributor. _________________ Various Rootes Vehicles. |
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MikeEdwards
Joined: 25 May 2011 Posts: 2472 Location: South Cheshire
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Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2019 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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Finally got back onto the old Audi after spending what seems like years repainting the road wheels on my daily driver. I've welded the offside rear bumper mount strengthener in place now, and started grinding some of the welds down. They'll all be covered with carpet in any case, but some are a bit too high. |
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Rick Site Admin
Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 22449 Location: UK
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kevin2306
Joined: 01 Jul 2013 Posts: 1359 Location: nr Llangollen, north wales
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Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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Had a half day today.
I replaced a leaky autobox gasket on the Singer last year,I used a neoprene type and it leaked even more!.
This time I have tried a composite type, difference this time was I reprofiled the area on the pan around the bolt holes as they were dished slightly.
Seems fine so time will tell.
I was considering selling it over the winter in favour of a tr6 but couldn’t do it.
As a compromise we have bought a Mercedes slk so I’m getting my open topped fix and a very nice car it is too.
I’m sure we will get more use out of it than the tr.
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Vulgalour
Joined: 08 May 2018 Posts: 474 Location: Kent
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Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 3:05 am Post subject: |
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Had to farm out some jobs on the Princess since I didn't have the equipment to tackle the hub nuts. They were on so tight even the garage it went to ended up with broken tools! Jobs now done, happily, and a fresh MoT to boot. |
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Rootes75
Joined: 30 Apr 2013 Posts: 3819 Location: The Somerset Levels
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Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 9:56 am Post subject: |
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We went to our local auto electrical garage yesterday, we have kniw them for years, my father for a good 40 years. They are proper old style with spares going back to 50's, but to our surprise when we got there they told us the old shop had been sold for flats and all the old spares had gone! They are now based in a portacabin next to the remaining garage.
Such a shame that a place like that has gone. The spares job lot went to a dealer for not a great sum. Probably a dealer who has just quoted me over £120 for a Lucas distributor cap alone! _________________ Various Rootes Vehicles. |
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badhuis
Joined: 20 Aug 2008 Posts: 1391 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 10:12 am Post subject: |
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Rootes75 wrote: | They are proper old style with spares going back to 50's, but to our surprise when we got there they told us the old shop had been sold for flats and all the old spares had gone! |
I had a similar experience five years ago when I remembered the old Lucas electrical specialist when I was looking for dynamo brushes. It was a proper old place with a 60s Lucas Electrics sign to the store front, and many spares in the back. I had used this place a couple of times because the owner was so experienced I always got back for spares but had not done that for a couple of years.
Regrettably the place was gone and new houses were on the spot.
Hmmm maybe I should revisit the bearings store in my town. This is a truly Alladins cave, run by a family for over 50 years. No real desk or till, I was invited once to see the spares and it was huge, all old fashioned storage racks and thousands of bearings. _________________ a car stops being fun when it becomes an investment |
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badhuis
Joined: 20 Aug 2008 Posts: 1391 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 10:33 am Post subject: |
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Surpised to learn they have a real website, and are in business since 1912! Fourth generation now.
https://adsmuldersbv.nl/index.php/over-ons _________________ a car stops being fun when it becomes an investment |
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Rootes75
Joined: 30 Apr 2013 Posts: 3819 Location: The Somerset Levels
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Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 11:10 am Post subject: |
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Thats now a couple of local auto specialists have closed near us and we have missed out on them selling off their older spares stores. _________________ Various Rootes Vehicles. |
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