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Rick Site Admin
Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 22447 Location: UK
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emmerson
Joined: 30 Sep 2008 Posts: 1268 Location: South East Wales
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Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 11:42 am Post subject: |
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There was one of those, and an A70 Hampshire pick-up in a local scrap dealers yard about 30 years ago. In spite of my asking to buy them, they both went in the crusher! |
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roverdriver
Joined: 18 Oct 2008 Posts: 1210 Location: 100 miles from Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
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Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 9:51 am Post subject: |
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'Pick-up' is an American title. The design of a car body to the rear of the front seat and a luggage tray behind that- i.e. a 'car' for car purposes and a light truck for farm and other purposes, combined into one vehicle was an Australian development in the early 1930's by the Ford Motor Company. From then on the arrangement was known as a 'Utility Vehicle' or a 'Ute' for short. Most other manufacturers copied the concept and ever since the Ute has been part of the Australian road scene. Prior to the development of the Ute many cars were cut down and fitted with a tray, but the proper ute is a totally factory built machine.
(Ill get off my soapbox now!) _________________ Dane- roverdriver but not a Viking. |
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badhuis
Joined: 20 Aug 2008 Posts: 1390 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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Are Utes still being built?
Not taking about the American pick up trucks (Ford F150, Ram etc). Utes seem to have disappeared? Or are they still a main product in the Australian car world. _________________ a car stops being fun when it becomes an investment |
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Keith D
Joined: 16 Oct 2008 Posts: 1129 Location: Upper Swan, Western Australia
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Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2019 4:38 am Post subject: |
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Australia no longer builds motor cars. In 2016 Ford Australia stopped production of the Falcon utes and in 2017 Holden ceased production of the Commodore series of utes. These cars are cult vehicles with very powerful engines, loaded with accessories and lowered. They are still very popular and will no doubt increase in value as time passes.
Other utes are available, mainly Asian. They are trying to take over from Ford and GM absence. Mazda, Nissan, Mitsubishi, Toyota, Great Wall etc. There is no shortage of them.
Utes were traditionally one piece bodies although a lot today are small trucks with separate trays.
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1932 Austin Seven RN long wheelbase box sedan
1950 Austin A40 tourer
1999 BMW Z3
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mikeC
Joined: 31 Jul 2009 Posts: 1775 Location: Market Warsop, Nottinghamshire
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Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2019 8:54 am Post subject: |
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Dane, the Pick-up or Utility concept was not an Australian innovation, they have been around since the dawn of motoring. The Americans were certainly leading the field before the First World War - the Model T Ford Pick-up was a catalogued model in 1912, and this International Harvester Delivery Car also dates from 1912:
But there were one-offs primarily built for estate use dating back to the turn of the century. _________________ in the garage: 1938 Talbot Ten Airline
Recently departed: 1953 Lancia Appia, 1931 Austin Seven, 1967 Singer Chamois, 1914 Saxon, 1930 Morris Cowley, 1936 BSA Scout, 1958 Lancia Appia coupe, 1922 Star 11.9 ... the list goes on! |
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Keith D
Joined: 16 Oct 2008 Posts: 1129 Location: Upper Swan, Western Australia
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Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2019 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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Mike,
The traditional Aussie ute has a one piece body, not a tray built separately on the back.
https://www.hidrive.com.au/blog/brief-history-ute
Keith _________________ 1926 Chrysler 60 tourer
1932 Austin Seven RN long wheelbase box sedan
1950 Austin A40 tourer
1999 BMW Z3
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roverdriver
Joined: 18 Oct 2008 Posts: 1210 Location: 100 miles from Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
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Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 8:04 am Post subject: |
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Yes Mike, the "Pick-up" concept has been around for a long long time, but the true 'ute' is a purpose built vehicle that was designed for rural dwellers. It was a car for Sunday and to take the Missus out in, but a work-horse for the rest of the time. the point being that the cabin accommodation was 'car quality', and not truck crudeness.
Keith D explains it well too.
You might like to read this explanation- https://www.drive.com.au/motor-feature/ford-australia--we-drive-the-original-ute-grkhr5 _________________ Dane- roverdriver but not a Viking. |
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mikeC
Joined: 31 Jul 2009 Posts: 1775 Location: Market Warsop, Nottinghamshire
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Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 8:53 am Post subject: |
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But that's just my point: the passenger compartments in the Model T Ford and IH were identical to the standard car. The IH could even be bought as a 4-seater pick-up! In both cases the pick-up rear was an integral part of the body, not a separate box.
_________________ in the garage: 1938 Talbot Ten Airline
Recently departed: 1953 Lancia Appia, 1931 Austin Seven, 1967 Singer Chamois, 1914 Saxon, 1930 Morris Cowley, 1936 BSA Scout, 1958 Lancia Appia coupe, 1922 Star 11.9 ... the list goes on! |
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