Classic cars forum & vehicle restoration.

Vifa · Joined: 27 Jul 2011 Posts: 21

Hi all,

This will go as my first post on this forum. I have recently bought a Dodge Wayfarer Business Coupe '49, it is a true survivor and with only 19.300 miles since 1949 it is in an amazing condition.

The paint is from '49 and I would like to preserve it like this. Several places on the car small rust spots can be found. I think it is important to treat the rust issue now before anything begin to develop.

This is where my headache begins.

How do I treat the spots without repainting a whole panel ?
Is it possible to match the same colour again without any visible difference between old and new paint ?
And will it even be possible to find the same type of paint as they used in '49 ?

Vifa

Vifa · Joined: 27 Jul 2011 Posts: 21

Vifa · Joined: 27 Jul 2011 Posts: 21

Here is a picture of one of the spots. It is from the front hood.

Rick · Site Admin Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 22452 Location: UK

I can't see all of the photos right now, but what a fabulous car!

I would wax the car using a proper old-style wax, not a modern paste, and I think that would do a good job of slowing down any small areas of corrosion that may be present. I would be very wary of trying to match new paint to the 62 year old paint on your car, it can be done, but only by people who have done a lot of paintwork in the past, and understand the older types of paint used in the 1940s.

RJ
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Vifa · Joined: 27 Jul 2011 Posts: 21

I did a wax job a couple of months ago, but since then I have been able to store the car inside where the temperature and humidity is controlled. I hope this will help prevent anything to develop further.

I will try find a skilled man to look at the paint. Is it even legal to use the same type of paint today as then ? I mean, environmental causes ?

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Kelsham · Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 5:21 pm Post subject: rust spots

Hi I would wipe the blemished areas with Jenolite to neutralise the rust before applying the wax polish.

I often use Jenolite to slow down rust while working on body work. By itself it can stop rust progressing for several months in my garage. The wax will extend this time.

Regards kels.

Vifa · Joined: 27 Jul 2011 Posts: 21

What wax would you use ?

I am all out of wax. I have been looking at some of Meguiars products, so many to choose from.

Any recommendation ?

RobMoore · Joined: 16 Jan 2011 Posts: 105 Location: Peterlee

Anything with a good carnuba content should do.

Castellated nut · Joined: 08 Dec 2007 Posts: 91 Location: Shropshire, UK

I've used 'Simoniz Original Wax' since I started polishing things in the '60s. It's harder work than modern liquid waxes, but gives an excellent shine and lasts well.

It disappeared a year or three back, but seems to have reappeared recently. I haven't tried the 'new' stuff yet (I'm still using the original 'original' - a tin lasts a LONG time!), but I certainly will when I run out.

Steve.

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Vifa · Joined: 27 Jul 2011 Posts: 21

I have been looking at these two:

HI-TECH YELLOW WAX

"Hi-Tech Yellow Wax is a premium yellow Carnauba wax blended with silicones, polymers and other waxes. Adds richness and depth of color. Provides ultimate high gloss protection to any previously cleaned and polished paint finish."

and

GOLD CLASS™ CARNAUBA PLUS CAR WAX

"Gold Class™ Carnauba Plus Car Wax will dramatically darken color, bring out the full richness of the paint, and create clear, sharp reflections for the ultimate show car shine."

...both from Meguiars. Both carnauba and as paste. I was hooked on the 'Gold Class' but I stumbled across the 'darken color' thing. Should I go for the "Hi Tech Yellow Wax" instead ?

Rick · Site Admin Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 22452 Location: UK

If you use any polish that has silicones in it, you may have problems should you decide to have any re-spraying work done in future. I would avoid anything with silicone in it, a simple beeswax would be my choice.

RJ
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Vifa · Joined: 27 Jul 2011 Posts: 21

Thanks for the input.

I just found out that all Meguiars' products contain silicones Confused

Why is silicone a problem while considering a respray ?

Rick · Site Admin Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 22452 Location: UK