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whiteshadow
Joined: 24 Jan 2011 Posts: 78
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Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 3:35 pm Post subject: Leaded Paint |
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Hi,
I'm playing about with a 1933 Singer Saloon......Am I right to think that the paint/undercoat (to metal & wood) is likely to contain LEAD?!
If so what is the best way to remove it, without it getting airborne? |
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colwyn500
Joined: 21 Oct 2012 Posts: 1745 Location: Nairn, Scotland
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Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:34 pm Post subject: |
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I must admit, when I restored my 1935 car I never thought of that
m ind you there wasn't much paint left on the chassis and the bodywas pretty much 50% rust.
It also never crossed my mind to grind or sand paint off like so many people seem to do. Paint-stripper must be the way to go or let a professional take the risk.
There are many ways to kill yourself with old cars and although I wouldn't underestimate the risk, I guess that the dust from grinding, fumes from fluids and welding and carcinogenic effects of oils and petrol fumes will contribute more to many restorers' ill-health than any lead in paint.
For the first 18 years of my life I probably consumed a chunk of lead with the cumulative effect of lead pipes for the house water supply. |
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Jim.Walker
Joined: 27 Dec 2008 Posts: 1229 Location: Chesterfield
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Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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colwyn500 wrote: |
For the first 18 years of my life I probably consumed a chunk of lead with the cumulative effect of lead pipes for the house water supply. |
I must say that like most people my age the first (half?) of my life I must have been contaminated with lots of lead from lead water pipes, car fumes from a fleet of taxis and a repair garage.
But in spite of that I managed to pass a few exams and collect a few qualifications.
BUT, without that lead would I have been up there with Einstein?? . Or did he have the same problem holding him back from greater things!!!
ON the other hand - is most of it baloney???
Jim. _________________ Quote from my late Dad:- You only need a woman and a car and you have all the problems you
are ever likely to want". Computers had not been invented then! |
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Kelsham
Joined: 18 Jan 2009 Posts: 349 Location: Llandrindod Wells Powys
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Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:31 am Post subject: |
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I have often wondered about the danger, I grew up chewing lead sodiers, moved on to biting lead shot onto fishing lines.
Drank water through lead pipes. ground paint off several pre-war cars.
Worked in a brake manufacturer to top up the lot with a good layer of asbestos.
Moved on to working with ammonia gas and Banda fluid, the later was found to be a cumulative poison and discontinued.
I reach 70 in March, Much is probably down to genetic tolerance.
If you are concerned use paint stripper, not as good as it used to be, chemicals have been removed because they are dangerous to health.
Regards Kels. |
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Jim.Walker
Joined: 27 Dec 2008 Posts: 1229 Location: Chesterfield
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Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:31 am Post subject: |
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Kelsham wrote: | I have often wondered about the danger, I grew up chewing lead sodiers, moved on to biting lead shot onto fishing lines.
Drank water through lead pipes. ground paint off several pre-war cars.
Worked in a brake manufacturer to top up the lot with a good layer of asbestos.
Moved on to working with ammonia gas and Banda fluid, the later was found to be a cumulative poison and discontinued.
I reach 70 in March, Much is probably down to genetic tolerance.
If you are concerned use paint stripper, not as good as it used to be, chemicals have been removed because they are dangerous to health.
Regards Kels. |
I think the real danger is the Asbestos aspect. The problem lies dormant for years and can kill within days of the first symptoms appearing.
I have lost a good friend and also a Brother-in-Law in the last couple off years. Both died rather suddenly because of exposure to asbestos when younger.
Tomorrow I will be listed as 5 years older than you Kelsham until March.
As an apprentice I gaily blew off the brake dust from (probably) hundreds of vehicles in the course of work. I wonder..........................
Ke Sera!
Jim. _________________ Quote from my late Dad:- You only need a woman and a car and you have all the problems you
are ever likely to want". Computers had not been invented then! |
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Kelsham
Joined: 18 Jan 2009 Posts: 349 Location: Llandrindod Wells Powys
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:16 am Post subject: |
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Jim, The asbestos used to worry me.
Where I worked it used to build up on the rivetting equipment and the linisher. Occasionallythe owner would come down into the workshop and tell us the works inspector was due a visit.
We would then sweep the dust of everything and stand in clouds of it while it settled.
I mentioned it to my Mother when the news began to circulate about the danger of asbestos.
She told me she had worked during the war making aeroplane gaskets using blue asbestos.
She died recently at 95 of a heart attack. I am hoping I have the same genes.
Regards Kels. |
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welshrover
Joined: 09 Aug 2011 Posts: 326
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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they dont make folk like they used too kelsham. the older generation were as hard as iron woodbines , park drive no problem. my mate was 93 years old smoked parkdrives most of his life and still got around ok just a bit slower than when he was a lad ,well thats what he told me.
he was lucky to be alive .he told me a story when he was out in monte casino on patrol one night with his best mate,when a sniper shot at him but just missed him and killed his mate instead, so 93 was a good age after a close call like that. R.I.P. BILL |
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