|
|
| Author |
Message |
peter scott
Joined: 18 Dec 2007
Posts: 7225
Location: Edinburgh
|
 Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 12:42 pm Post subject: |
 |
|
| 71marina wrote: |  The old marina is getting off pretty light so far
Now I feel everyone is going to get in about it  I was never a great lover of the Phase 2 Vanguard it rolled and bounced all over the place....mind you the shocks were probably knackered |
Aha! Now we know why you like Marinas, Larry. You want to be picked on!
I drove a friend's 1.8 TC once and ok, it went well enough in a straight line but I'm not sure I wouldn't put my money on the Vanguard with knackered shocks when it came to corners.
Peter 
_________________
https://www.nostalgiatech.co.uk
1939 SS Jaguar 2 1/2 litre saloon
Last edited by peter scott on Mon Aug 17, 2009 5:18 pm; edited 1 time in total |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Giggles
Joined: 25 Nov 2007
Posts: 302
Location: Tucked up under a patchwork quilt somwhere in Suffolk
|
| Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 4:22 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Well at the moment, I have a strong dislike for a certain yellow humber sitting on my driveway. Hubby is spending far too much time on it at the moment and far too much money on it. 
_________________
1953 Humber Hawk
1955 Ford Fairlane
1960 & 1963 Humber Super Snipe's |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
mikeC
Joined: 31 Jul 2009
Posts: 1823
Location: Market Warsop, Nottinghamshire
|
| Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 4:45 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Nic Jarman wrote: | | It's not a hate the Triumph week because I really like some but the Herald!!!! .... The handling, my God the handling, if you do little more than poodle around the back end jumps around like a frog on acid. Bags of cement are put in the boot to try and keep the over light back end on the ground. I love the Vitesse but it has the same back end and it lurches skywards as you corner. |
Oh no, not that old chestnut 
I have driven Heralds, Spitfires and Vitesses competitively over many years, and I love the handling  They handle much better than many cars of the fifties and sixties, but I agree, you do need to be aware of their characteristics (just as you do with any car) - as Denis Jenkinson said of the Porsche 356 - critics of the car just don't know how to drive (them). Er, well, I added the last word
Personally, give me an oversteering Herald in preference to an understeering Mini any day: I would far sooner get the car round a corner and sort out a wayward backend afterwards, than fail to make the corner in the first place
Oh, and Rick, yes, the later rear suspensions on Spitfires, Vitesses and GT6s certainly reduce the ultimate oversteer, but they somehow reduce the precision in ultimate cornering: I always used to reckon I could place the front wheel of a swing-axle car within 1/2 inch, whereas with the wishbone or swing-spring set-up, it was more like 2-3 inches... |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Rick
Site Admin
Joined: 27 Apr 2005
Posts: 22915
Location: UK
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Peter_L
Joined: 10 Apr 2008
Posts: 2680
Location: New Brunswick. Canada.
|
| Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 6:47 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| mikeC wrote: |
Personally, give me an oversteering Herald in preference to an understeering Mini any day: I would far sooner get the car round a corner and sort out a wayward backend afterwards, than fail to make the corner in the first place
[... |
I have had my days thrashing Mini's and Escorts down twisty tracks. I loved the Mini.
Flat Right Tightens. Full lock right, then bring it back, Left foot dab on the brakes to lock the rear wheels, steering goes past centre and left to bring the rear back in line. Steering wheel to center and on to the next one.
Worked perfectly except for the times it didn't
. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Nic Jarman
Joined: 05 Oct 2008
Posts: 1031
Location: Stoke by Clare, Suffolk
|
| Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 11:37 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I was talking to some classic car nuts tonight and mentioned the Herald and its leaping rear end. I told them it was 1976 and the penny dropped. It was very very hot that year and the tarmac was very sticky that gave the rear tyres too much grip.
_________________
1936 Morris 8 Series 1
1973 MGB roadster
1977 MG Midget 1500
Dax Rush |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Nic Jarman
Joined: 05 Oct 2008
Posts: 1031
Location: Stoke by Clare, Suffolk
|
| Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 4:38 pm Post subject: |
|
|
What is the point of mock tudor cars, Why don't people paint the wood black ( which is wrong anyway) and the metal work white. Then dress up like Henry VIII.
_________________
1936 Morris 8 Series 1
1973 MGB roadster
1977 MG Midget 1500
Dax Rush |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
pigtin
Joined: 23 Nov 2007
Posts: 1879
Location: Herne Bay
|
| Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 7:10 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I took a dislike to the Lancia Beta back in the seventies--the one's that rotted out. Not so much the car itself but my cousin bought a new one, he's a total prat and should have been on a bicycle.
How's that for irrational? 
_________________
Due to the onset of my mid eighties I'm no longer sprightly and rarely seen in my Austin special. I have written a book though. https://amzn.eu/d/7rwRRqL |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Richard H
Joined: 03 Apr 2009
Posts: 2154
Location: Lincolnshire, UK
|
| Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 12:55 am Post subject: |
|
|
| peter scott wrote: | We need more counsels for the defence in this thread.
I have a general hatred for the BMC A series (It looks horrible and is generally crude in operation) but I must say I thought the 1100s weren't all that bad. You could squeeze quite a lot into them and the suspension wasn't quite as jarring as the Minis.
Come on 640TMP come and defend the A series.
Peter |
A Series are great little engines, they've powered everything from A30's to Allegros and the only negative are the rear crank seal oil leaks - have you ever seen an oil tight A Series? Not good if you've got an expensive block paved drive.....
For me it's got to be VW Campers, because they're noisy, thirsty, expensive for what they are and are just so overrated.
_________________
Richard Hughes |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Brian M
Joined: 23 Nov 2007
Posts: 783
Location: Leigh-on-Sea, Essex
|
| Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 7:51 am Post subject: |
|
|
| 640TMP wrote: | | For me it's got to be VW Campers, because they're noisy, thirsty, expensive for what they are and are just so overrated. |
Expensive isn't the word. There are two or three for sale at over £40k and the owner of this one attended my recent show, it was voted best Samba at a national VW event and he turned down an offer of £80k for it!
 [/url]
In my opinion they are neither a good van, nor a practical camper with the rear engine blocking all access to the back, as well as being horrible to drive.
_________________
Brian
1970 Volvo Amazon and 1978 Safari 15-4 Caravan
Classic Safari Forum: www.classicsafaris.co.uk |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Keith D
Joined: 16 Oct 2008
Posts: 1188
Location: Upper Swan, Western Australia
|
| Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 2:47 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I have a Kombi camper, Brian and Rich.
And I'm not selling it to anyone!!
You need to own and drive one to know why they're fetching big bucks!
Keith |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Nic Jarman
Joined: 05 Oct 2008
Posts: 1031
Location: Stoke by Clare, Suffolk
|
| Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 3:54 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Hey Pigtin, its people like your cousin that we try to keep off bicycles. What is wrong with his feet? Or the bus?
_________________
1936 Morris 8 Series 1
1973 MGB roadster
1977 MG Midget 1500
Dax Rush |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Dirty Habit
Joined: 26 Mar 2008
Posts: 398
Location: West Midlands, UK
|
| Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 9:33 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Keith D wrote: |
You need to own and drive one to know why they're fetching big bucks!
Keith |
A couple brothers I know spent 18 months rebuilding one and after the one brother drove it for the first time, he told the other brother "Do what you like with it, but I am never driving it again". And he never did. The other brother kept it for six months but had to admit in the end it was awful and sold it.
_________________
1964 International Harvester |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
pigtin
Joined: 23 Nov 2007
Posts: 1879
Location: Herne Bay
|
| Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 10:33 am Post subject: |
|
|
Reminds me of my experiences with an Anglebug. This apology for a shopping trolley bucked the trend back in the seventies by being Ford Anglia based. Most other beach buggies were VW based.
A fellow delivered it on a tractor and trailer, it having been a failed project. The builder had oviously had high hopes for it and had fitted a 1500cc GT cortina engine (not the twincam.) I spent many months getting it ready for the MOT. The journey to the MOT station was the only time I ever drove it and I had to call on hitherto untapped resources of courage, before making the journey back home.
I sold it to a lad who had victim written all over him. Salving my concience by telling him there may be some handling problems to sort out before attempting anything ambitious, like a drive to the end of the street. The fact that it had an MOT convinced him it couldn't be that bad.
I have tried, in vain, to find any information or photos of this four -wheeled blight on the name of kit cars. But have to satisfy myself with seeing it in the occasional nightmare after eating too much cheese in the evening.
_________________
Due to the onset of my mid eighties I'm no longer sprightly and rarely seen in my Austin special. I have written a book though. https://amzn.eu/d/7rwRRqL |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Peter_L
Joined: 10 Apr 2008
Posts: 2680
Location: New Brunswick. Canada.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
FAQ
Search
Memberlist
Usergroups
Profile
Log in to check your private messages
Log in
)
