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Rover P5b.Is it the poor mans rolls royce?.
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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 9:52 am    Post subject: Rover P5b.Is it the poor mans rolls royce?. Reply with quote

I was looking for an early rolls shadow when I ended up with my P5b,I couldn't find a tax exempt roller at sensible money and I wanted a rover after promising myself yaers ago I'd eventually buy a decent one.
I like quiet cars,the rover is pretty quiet now its all sorted with some proper insulation on the bonnet and inside,new grommets in the bulkhead and all sorts of sundry squeaks and rattle sorted.
I've never driven or been in a really sorted roller and I'm sure some of you will have driven both.So,am I missing much or anything?.Is the roller good enough that even a well sorted P5b doesn't match up and so is really "The poor mans rolls royce"?. In lots of ways it doesn't matter to me,I love the old rover and can't find anywhere to keep a rolls if I had one.
But I'm curious.
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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A Rolls Royce is merely a rich man's Rover!
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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

During the brief moments that mine was running a few weeks ago Laughing it reminded me a lot of driving my old XJ6 Series 1 - the very quiet cabin, and the super-light steering, being the main similarities. Can't say I've ever been in a R-R though.

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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe the six cylinder would be a better candidate in some ways for comparison.the steering is better weighted and the engines are a bit quieter and smoother.The performance is a bit down on the V8 though.
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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 4:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have seen repeated references to the P5's long-lived popularity with the British monarchy and governmental figures. Maybe the P5 is a way to enjoy RR comfort and dignity without appearing too...ostentatious?

If I had a Rover I would be delighted to own and drive it. I think I would feel somewhat embarrassed to be seen behind the wheel of a Rolls (even if the car was nearly free, the only way I could afford one), as if I were "putting on airs".
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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a Bentley T, the equivalent of the Silver Shadow, and my son has a P5B, because we live over 200 miles apart we haven't yet had them side by side to compare, but with the Rover you can hear that beautiful V8 sound where as the Bentley is muted, on the road the Bentley is smoother, but dont expect it to go round corners like a Rover. The Bentley is a more comfortable ride but that is probably due to the Citreon inspired suspension, seats are not unalike but the Bentley has more positions due to a battery of motors that move them up/down, forward/back, but the recline is done with a lever like most other cars.
The problem of corrosion is much the same but the Rover is easier and cheaper to repair, you can expect to stop a petrol station twice as often in the Bentley. also spare parts are a lot more expensive, Would I swap it for a P5B Coupe, Yes, I think I would.
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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

3 litres IOE 6's are far quieter and smoother than P5B V8's - no doubt Rolls Royce had to put far more sound deadening into the Shadows when they changed over from their IOE6 to the V8. Rover did not bother adding an extra

V8 Rollers are certainly noisier outside that than their 6's and also P5 3 Litrs

I agree that a Roller/Bentley is a rich mans Rover
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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2011 8:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Coincidentally, a chap at our house yesterday who's been doing some building work, saw the P5B and commented on it being the poor-man's Rolls Smile

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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2011 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a long while since I had my six cylinder p5 but I seem to remember it was very smooth and just about inaudible at tickover.
I suppose after all the years of development it was a better 'sorted' engine than the V8.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 04, 2011 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got mine running again today, enough for some test runs on the drive. One front brake stuck solid in the process, so an hour or so was spent removing the pad securing pins, and finally cracking open the bleed nipple, in order to free that corner off.

There's a bit of a misfire present, although looking at the state of the points I'm surprised it'll run at all. New points and condenser are on the list, probably a set of HT leads too.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 04, 2011 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a bit of a soft spot for these old cars. Check out the dates of the posts on this.

http://roverp5.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=210

It would be great if this car is still around ,its our silver wedding next year.
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