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JC T ONE
Joined: 30 Oct 2008 Posts: 1139 Location: Denmark
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Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 9:18 pm Post subject: Fat flange Mini engine, in need of attention. |
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Here are som photos, of the "Fat" one .
Its one of those engines with the BIG bore, and tappet covers, that can be removed, from the block.
It has too many studs&bolts to hold the head, no vacuum on the destributer.
And as the title indicates a "FAT" flange where you bolt it to the gearbox, which have driveshaft couplings,
that share first name with one part, of 2 famues American comedians .
Shame is was left in a garden for so many years (since 1978)
removed the head, it had 4 stuck valves, but I worked a little on it, so they would move again.
This is what I found, after the head was removed.
This is NOT what you want to see, when you remove your drain plug
Hardly any metal bits on the magnet, engine only done 3000 miles.
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bob2
Joined: 06 Dec 2007 Posts: 1727 Location: Malta
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Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 10:05 am Post subject: |
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That engine has had it me thinks, a bit too far gone even if its so rare nowadays! |
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Kelsham
Joined: 18 Jan 2009 Posts: 349 Location: Llandrindod Wells Powys
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Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 10:14 am Post subject: |
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What is the crank condition? I would like to see further pictures after its all cleaned up.
Regards Kels. |
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MVPeters
Joined: 28 Aug 2008 Posts: 822 Location: Northern MA, USA
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Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 11:25 am Post subject: |
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I must admit that I had the same thought after the initial description. 30 years in the garden!
I think the first thing I'd do is see if I could get any over-bore numbers off the piston crown & see if there's enough metal left to do it again. I think +40thou = 1340cc is the max possible. _________________ Mike - MVPeters at comcast.net
2002 MINI Cooper 'S' |
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Kelsham
Joined: 18 Jan 2009 Posts: 349 Location: Llandrindod Wells Powys
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Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 5:11 pm Post subject: |
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If it's rare, a re sleeve would be an option. It is amazing what can be saved.
Regards Kels. |
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JC T ONE
Joined: 30 Oct 2008 Posts: 1139 Location: Denmark
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Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 5:21 pm Post subject: |
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Hi all
Thanks for the input/comments/advice.
The engine will be rebuilt, I paid money for it and I dont like to waste money
worst case scenario, I will make it into a coffee table
I will check the pistons later, and it its too scared in the bores, it will be resleeved.
Here is a picture of the drive shaft coupling/axle.
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JC T ONE
Joined: 30 Oct 2008 Posts: 1139 Location: Denmark
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Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 5:25 pm Post subject: |
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Kelsham wrote: |
If it's rare
Regards Kels
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Hi Kelsham,
Well rare is sometimes hard to describe ? but its a genuine 1275 S, with all the correct bits.
Regards Jens Christian _________________ http://www.eurods.eu/wp/index.html |
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ukdave2002
Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 4105 Location: South Cheshire
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Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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I had my Morris 8 engine re-lined, it probably added a couple of hundred quid to the rebuild cost, a 100 or so for the liners and about the same for the additional machine shop costs. Small benefit was that standard sized pistons and rings tend to be cheaper and everyone wants oversize
Cranks can be metal sprayed if there is not enough metal for a regrind.
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JC T ONE
Joined: 30 Oct 2008 Posts: 1139 Location: Denmark
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Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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ukdave2002 wrote: | I had my Morris 8 engine re-lined, it probably added a couple of hundred quid to the rebuild cost, a 100 or so for the liners and about the same for the additional machine shop costs. Small benefit was that standard sized pistons and rings tend to be cheaper and everyone wants oversize
Cranks can be metal sprayed if there is not enough metal for a regrind.
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Hi Dave,
Yes that sounds like a good option, and if I do, I might as well have the new liners bored out,
to fit the pistons in the engine (if they are OK?) as they have done so few miles. _________________ http://www.eurods.eu/wp/index.html |
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bob2
Joined: 06 Dec 2007 Posts: 1727 Location: Malta
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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 11:25 am Post subject: |
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Hi JC, I dont think its worthed to rebuild that engine, send it to me instead!!
It will surely cost you but will be worthed in the end!!
Now you must buy a car to put that engine in!! |
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JC T ONE
Joined: 30 Oct 2008 Posts: 1139 Location: Denmark
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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 12:05 pm Post subject: |
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bob2 wrote: | Hi JC, I dont think its worthed to rebuild that engine, send it to me instead!!
It will surely cost you but will be worthed in the end!!
Now you must buy a car to put that engine in!! |
Hi N,
yes I imagine you would like that nah I think I will keep it
I will buy a 1½ liter Coca Cola, and pour into the bores, to see what happens ?
Yes I know I need a car for it but that will probably never happen.
I have all the Gold brocade seats, 7.5" S disc brakes, correct LP 883 S rims, but no car _________________ http://www.eurods.eu/wp/index.html |
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welder
Joined: 26 Nov 2007 Posts: 265 Location: North Warwickshire
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Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 12:42 am Post subject: |
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Kelsham wrote: | If it's rare, a re sleeve would be an option. It is amazing what can be saved.
Regards Kels. |
Kels, I fully agree. I've been involved in engineering all of my working life and firmly believe that with enough determination almost any mechanical device can be made good. Eventually
An engine is only a bunch of castings containing some things that go round and round and others that go up and down.
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