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losmorales
Joined: 30 Apr 2012
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 Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 5:29 pm Post subject: Morris Oxford Diesel |
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Hi Guys
Are there any Morris Oxford Diesels out there, they certainly seem to be thin on the ground !!
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Julian
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| Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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I don't think it was ever a factory option. I have a vague recollection of having seen one with an Austin 'Black-Cab' engine - is that the BMC?
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Rick
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Penman
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| Rick wrote: | There was a diesel option in the Farina Cambridge/Oxford line-up I'm sure, I doubt there are many survivors.
RJ |
In the wiki entries for Oxford and Cambridge, a 1.5L diesel is mentioned as a Taxi version.
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Rick
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Uncle Alec
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| Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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| There was an option for a B-series diesel (1500cc I think) and I had the extreme bad fortune to have one with an auto box. It wouldn't pull the skin off a rice pudding. I had to fit a special meter to tell if it was moving or not. |
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exbmc
Joined: 18 Jun 2009
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Location: Derby East Midlands
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| Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 8:22 pm Post subject: Oxford diesel |
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There certainly was an optional diesel for the Farina models. As Uncle Alec says, it was a 1500cc, and most were manual boxes. They were never very sprightly, and the auto was sloooooooooooooooooooow!!
They never sold very well, and most, but not all went as taxis.
Lots of the engines have been marinised, and power narrow boats, along the canals. You could buy one brand new in the 60's ready to go in a narrow boat, also the diesel from the mini-tractor. I don't know if the conversion was actually by BMC, or if it was a specialist company. |
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losmorales
Joined: 30 Apr 2012
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| Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 8:52 pm Post subject: Morris Oxford Diesel |
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| Uncle Alec wrote: | | There was an option for a B-series diesel (1500cc I think) and I had the extreme bad fortune to have one with an auto box. It wouldn't pull the skin off a rice pudding. I had to fit a special meter to tell if it was moving or not. |
In the 1960s I worked for my father's car hire business as mechanic after serving my apprenticeship at L Gardner & Sons.
In 1966 We bought 2 brand new Farina Oxford Diesels on my recommendation as I have always been in favour of Diesel engined cars even though they were not at all popular in England in those days as they were in Germany, France and Italy where Diesel fuel was much cheaper than in UK.
Surprisingly the cars were accepted quite well by customers taking their family and friends on holiday because of the fuel economy.
The performance was not great and top speed was I think about 67 mph.
I don't think there were any other British Diesel saloon cars produced in the 1950s/60s apart from the Standard Vanguard fitted with the Standard/ Freeman Sanders Diesel engine which was also fitted to the Ferguson tractor.
These cars are now very rare and I would say well worth restoring, if you can find any !!!
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losmorales
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| Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 8:54 pm Post subject: Oxford Diesel |
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| Rick wrote: | I think I might have a single page leaflet for that model somewhere.
RJ |
I have an owners handbook.
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RUSTON
Joined: 07 Mar 2011
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| Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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We sold and serviced a couple of diesel Oxford's, as has been said they were sluggish but then so were the J2 and J4 van/pickups that were fitted with the same unit. We weren't in such a hurry 40+ years ago! It was a nice smooth running engine though, ideal for marine application. The 250 JU must have been one of the last vehicles fitted with it.
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bob2
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| Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 8:50 am Post subject: |
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a very common and used engine over here in Malta, used also for marine application, mostly in the traditional luzzus and skunas fishing boats!!
The bmc diesel engine was also fitted to many other marks of cars, including, fords, hillmans, fiats, you name it and probably there was one fitted with such an engine over here!!
My father in law had a minx fitted with one and it was very economical!! |
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losmorales
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| Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 1:02 pm Post subject: BMC 1.5 Diesel Engine |
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| bob2 wrote: | a very common and used engine over here in Malta, used also for marine application, mostly in the traditional luzzus and skunas fishing boats!!
The bmc diesel engine was also fitted to many other marks of cars, including, fords, hillmans, fiats, you name it and probably there was one fitted with such an engine over here!!
My father in law had a minx fitted with one and it was very economical!! |
Years ago A friend of mine in Malta (Bill Kind) had an Austin 1800 landcrab with a BMC Diesel, I never knew they made a transverse Diesel but he had one.
The other Diesel conversion for family cars in the 1960s was thePerkins 4.99 and was mainly fitted to Rootes Hillman and Commer vans etc.
The BMC 1.5 Diesel was a nicer engine than the Perkins to my mind, I have overhauled many of both makes.
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Jim.Walker
Joined: 27 Dec 2008
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Location: Chesterfield
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| Posted: Sat May 12, 2012 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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A few years ago I had a 30ft river cruiser driven by a 1500 BMC diesel. It was easily capable of exceeding the speed limits on the tidal Trent and drank about a gallon of red diesel every four hours. Very acceptable!
Especially as red diesel was less than £1 per gallon.
The slightly smaller (and no faster) petrol predecessor I had used at least a gallon an hour on full road price petrol.
Up to only a few years ago new BMC (designed) 1500 and 1800 diesels were available from Asia and were often marinised.
I do no boating now and I have no idea whether they are still available.
People may criticise them as vehicle engines, but they were top-notch as boat engines.
Jim.
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bob2
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| Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 8:32 am Post subject: |
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yes jim very good engines!!
slow but at the time there wasn't all the rush like today!! |
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welshrover
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| theres a guy in the cambridge- oxford owners club got one |
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