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buzzy bee
Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 3382 Location: South Cheshire
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Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 6:43 pm Post subject: Forming steel |
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Hi
I need to make a rounded corner, by that I mean like the corner of a cube, but round vertically and horizontally, there must be a name for it, but I don't know it.
It will be made of 3mm plate or thicker.
I am thinking of making a male and female former, and forming it between the two, or do I form it over a former by hand? Both will be done hot, to allow it to stretch more easily.
Any ideas or thoughts would be appreciated.
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ukdave2002
Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 4105 Location: South Cheshire
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Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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Have you got a big hammer!! |
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buzzy bee
Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 3382 Location: South Cheshire
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Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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Hammers are no problem! Might even find an air hammer... |
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Uncle Alec
Joined: 14 Jan 2008 Posts: 734 Location: Manchester
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Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 11:56 pm Post subject: |
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Make one in wood; then make paper pattern; cut through the paper so that you have a profile to cut metal from a square corner; cut the 3mm to size and scribe each of the three flat sheets on the meeting corner. You will then have a profile that will, after the box is made and welded, heat to red and dress down into the corner shape you require.
Then tig-weld the butt joints, and dress with a file to tidy.
I did this a few times. TBH it wasn't clinically uniform, but with 3mm you have a fair bit to go at with the file, and just maybe it doesn't have to be super-accurate. |
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ukdave2002
Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 4105 Location: South Cheshire
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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 11:12 am Post subject: |
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I have made concave formers in big chunks of wood, by using an angle grinder "end on" it creates smoke as the wood burns , but you can create quite accurate shapes. With thinner metal I would heat it and hammer with a bossing mallet, don't know if you could scale this approach up to suit 3mm.
I have acquired an English Wheel, but it wont be any use for the thickness you are working with
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troutrunner
Joined: 03 Dec 2012 Posts: 185 Location: South Lincolnshire
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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 1:39 pm Post subject: Re: Forming steel |
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buzzy bee wrote: | Hi
I need to make a rounded corner, by that I mean like the corner of a cube, but round vertically and horizontally, there must be a name for it, but I don't know it. |
I think the term you are looking for is "Double Curvature"
Again, the place to go for the answer is http://www.metalmeet.com/forum/index.php
I searched this site for "Double Curvature" and came up with this diverse lot http://www.metalmeet.com/forum/search.php?searchid=1009125
This thread shows some interesting photy's http://www.metalmeet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10496&highlight=Double+curvature
Hope this helps _________________ Paul
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buzzy bee
Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 3382 Location: South Cheshire
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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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Hi
I know that 16 mm plate or similar will form over a steel former to give what I am after, with a few pepper pots and a couple of sledge hammers over a day or so, and likewise in a Forming press if you have one. I wondered about replicating it when it was hot in a vice or even a bench press.
I hadn't thought about wood, not sure it would be man enough, I could be wrong.
I can't access that other Forum, so will have to look into joining up, don't like doing that just for looking, but it does sound an interesting and handy place, so maybe a good idea.
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buzzy bee
Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 3382 Location: South Cheshire
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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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Double curvature sounds about right.
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Dave |
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troutrunner
Joined: 03 Dec 2012 Posts: 185 Location: South Lincolnshire
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 1:33 am Post subject: |
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buzzy bee wrote: |
I can't access that other Forum, so will have to look into joining up, don't like doing that just for looking, but it does sound an interesting and handy place, so maybe a good idea.
Cheers
Dave |
Hi Dave,
just join and say Hello and ask a question, they are really a great bunch of blokes and totally international, I don't use the site daily, I just use it if I have a question to ask and also look around to find inspiratation to further my skills. _________________ Paul
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1937 Ford Model Y.
1939 Austin 10.
1955 Austin A30.
1958 Ford 300E van.
1961 Austin A40.
1964 Wolseley Hornet.
1965 Series2a Land Rover.
1968 Wolseley Hornet.
1994 Peugeot 405 Est. 2of.
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buzzy bee
Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 3382 Location: South Cheshire
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Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 1:41 pm Post subject: |
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Well yesterday I had a play, don't think it is curved enough, but that is due to the former needing more work.
What does everyone think?
I thought it was quite good for a first attempt:-
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colwyn500
Joined: 21 Oct 2012 Posts: 1745 Location: Nairn, Scotland
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I would be very happy with that. The boy done well! Great when you get photos to go with posts. |
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D4B
Joined: 28 Dec 2010 Posts: 2083 Location: Hampshire UK
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Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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I would be very happy with that Well Done Buzzy dude |
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