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1965 Singer Vogue Mk3 re-commissioning
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kevin2306



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ooops . Haha
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kevin2306



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Decided to make a start on the brakes tonight. jacked the back up, axle stand inder and removed the drivers rear wheel. Expected a nightmare seeing as this is the first time the wheels have been off since the mid 80's and the singer has been stood since '89.

I must say i was pleasantly suprised and have seen worse looking brakes on cars just a few years old!



is there a tool i can get to remove these little buggers (usually use mole grips but there must be a better tool?



kev
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peter scott



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ordinary flat nosed electrical pliers work well. Just approach straight on pushing the washer with the noses of the pliers, then rotate the pin from the back side of the backplate until it lines up with the slot.

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kevin2306



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

had a search and sent for one of these



should make life easier

kev
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kevin2306



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

waiting for my brake tool to arrive and juggling the car work with re-tiling the ensuite (keeps wifey happy)
had an hour to spare so grabbed my machine polisher from the garage loft, only had some fine compound, so had a quick go.

before..



after...



i do have some g3 winging its way so will do some more in between other tasks

kev
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bob2



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

should buff up really well with G3!!
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kevin2306



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 06, 2013 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

not done much over the last week as some house repairs were needed.
finished those this morning so had an hour on the singer.
decided to strip the rear drivers brake down to clean and rebuild. the spring washer tool had arrived and really makes life easy when removing the slotted retainer. bonus,
so, first cylinder stripped off. it was plastered in old grease which has really preserved matters.

once cleaned up it looks like new!



the inside is just as clean. new seals to be fitted tomorrow and thats one wheel done.

kev
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kevin2306



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 06, 2013 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

just been drying everything off and making sure things are clean and ready to rebuild.
i have rebuild kits from a well know source but on looking at the seal supplied it is vastly different to the one that is already fitted (external diameter is ok but the inner diameter is a lot smaller).
had a mooch on fleabay and have found some new old stock, genuine lockheed seal kits for sale but in the US of A. ordered them but suppose that will scupper things for a while. i suppose these aftermarket seal kits are like all (or most) pattern spares. nearly correct but not quite?

kev
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kevin2306



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

one down, three to go. all stripped down, cleaned and greased up (with new seals, painted, reassembled and adjusted up.

hope the other 3 hubs go as well.



the red hue is from my red heater..lovely and toasty warm

kev
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kevin2306



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

no pictures of tonights exploits (some will cheer)
stripped the passenger rear hub, wheel cylinder stripped and is soaking in cleaner ready to rebuild tomorrow.
shoes cleaned and degreased, drum placed in the blaster ready to clean tomorrow.
removed and renewed the single flexible brake pipe to the rear, once again all this was made easy by the previous owner using copious quantities of copper grease on everything Very Happy
so tomorrow, rebuild the cylinder with new seals, paint everything that requires painting, reassemble, adjust and get some new brake fluid flowing to the back end to check for leaks etc before starting the front end.
ordered a set of plastic trim removal tools (sykes). ive decided to remove all the chrome trim to make compounding and (where required) painting/polishing the paintwork a simpler task.
fixed a 5 foot section of 4" drainpipe to the garage ceiling to store all the trim in safely Smile

phew.
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kevin2306



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

finished the rear brakes today, all bled with new fluid and adjusted up (fluid will be flushed once the front and new servo are fitted) good handbrake and more to the point, i now have brakes! so the lack of brakes was somewhere between the rear flexi and rear cylinders somewhere.
once cleaned and tidied away, i did a little more compounding to the rear paintwork.
started off last week thinking i was going to machine polish the paint, following a bit of advice from a fellow enthusiast i have become slightly obsessed with compounding it by hand using only front to back action!
coming up nicely.
she gets turned round tomorrow and round 2 (front brakes and servo) starts

kev
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

had a good g3 session this afternoon (whilst the front caliper is soaking in degreaser and in between blasting the front brake backplate - gets boring)
looking like the car from the doors backwards will be fine just cut back and polished up. the front wings and bonnet are a disaster though, the previous owner used to tinker in his garage. one of the jobs he liked to do was rub a panel down and spray it up. he has done this pretty much to all the bottom panels inc the whole of the front wings and bonnet. the car has been stored in his garage since about 1986ish under blankets. looks like the moisture trapped has caused a reaction and little blisters (prob moisture in the paint/airline with no filter).
so, cant stretch to a professional repaint, gonna get a decent hvlp gun in the next few weeks and do the front end in cellulose. painted before but that was years back. way i see it is as long as i keep things clean and get enough paint on i will get a decent finish once wet sanded and cut back.
spoke with a good paint supplier in derby who can do a paint match for me if i take a small panel as a colour pattern.

kev
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ukdave2002



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can point you in the direction of a friendly paint supplier a bit closer if that helps....by friendly I mean that he will give an amateur loads of advice and likes cash payments Wink

Dave
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kevin2306



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ukdave2002 wrote:
I can point you in the direction of a friendly paint supplier a bit closer if that helps....by friendly I mean that he will give an amateur loads of advice and likes cash payments Wink

Dave


that would be great dave!
save me going to derby...
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

had some spare time last night and tonight so carried on with he drivers side brakes.
last night i soaked the caliper in the parts washer, then stripped the front hub off, cleaned and repacked the bearings then reassembled the hub and gave it a quick blast of paint (vht etch primer followed by vht black)
tonight, dried the caliper off, stripped the STAINLESS STEEL PISTONS out (how good was that of the previous owner to replace the steel ones for me) removed the seals and replaced them with a fresh set.
removed and cleaned the bleed nipple and fitted a new flexi.
gave i all a coat of etch and vht black and reassembled it onto the hub.
here is a very small bit of surface corrosion to the outside face of the discs but its surface only and they have loads of life in them so will see how tey bed in once used a bit. pads were fine as were the springs and split pins.
copious amounts of brake grease and copper grease (in their relevant places) will keep things working nicely and aid future maintenance.
will finish fitting the flexi and bleed that side on thursday.


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