Classic cars forum & vehicle restoration.

[rjt10/4]

im looking to repaint my 1952 moggy mm with coachpaint my question is my car is part undercoated and rest is original paint I don't wish to do a bare metal repaint so what is the best way to proceed do I just key the original paint and top coat or do I key and prime before topcoat any help appreciated

[Old Wrench]

With much respect, unless you are a fully experienced coach painter, used to achieving a superb finish and flash lacquering afterwards, then don't!

It will look like a bag of bolts.

If you must brushpaint, then probably Hammerite Smoothrite will provide the best result: but expensive!

Here is how to tell what paint type the manufacturer used, originally, from the build plate:

Prefix: SMM. (Series Morris Minor)


MNR (Minor) /

S = Synobel paint

SYN = Synthetic paint

No designation = Cellulose paint

Clip about SynobelPaint here:

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/94814490
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[norustplease]

Not necessarily, roller it and use something like Rustoleum. This website document explains all, plus try looking on YouTube.

http://forum.club8090.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=18751

I rollered this R4 a few years ago. It looked great, as with all painting, it is mainly down to the prep work.




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[ukdave2002]

[D4B]

Hammerite & Smoothrite: please don't, but I agree it is possible with the right preparation & techniques, just don't ask me what they are tho

[bob2]

I have rollered single pack paints too mixing them with hardener for a 3:1 ratio so that it does not dry too fast!!
If the preparation is good all you will have to do is sand the orange peel off and buff the paint!!
I have done my hunter's boot and engine bay like that and the results were not bad at all, my surf blue mini's engine bay had a little more attention and preparation put into it and the results were better, so its possible and doable!!
I have used all normal automotive paints on the mini's engine bay, etch primer brushed on two coats then sanded with 320, 2 coats of filler/primer rollered on than sanded with 320/400, 4 or 5 coats of surf blue single pack paint with sanding in between coats. Then a final sand with 2000, water and liquid soap and some g3 compound and its ready to go.

[Old Wrench]

[Old Wrench]

From interest, I did quite a but of searching on US sites where the "Shade Tree" mechanics use Rustoleum and rollers. Seems there is rather a lot of work needed to achieve a halfway decent finish: and colours fade, rather quickly, apparently.

In the past I have used synthetics on two cars: and a few vans.

In the early 1970s, Valentine introduced a half hour air drying synthetic called "Valflash". It's attraction was a one coat finish and tack dry in 30 minutes.

I repaired a rather nice insurance write off (clean book) MG Magnette Farina, which had been hit dead frontal when parked outside my regular customer's house! Easy cheap repair and I painted the car in Valflash, post metalwork.

Problem is such paints always look slightly plastic gloss. Fine for vans but not for decent cars.

However, it is a cheap and quick way to paint a vehicle: I even tried Valflash metallic on a nice little A30, for a bit of fun! Ford light green metallic as used then on Capri and 1600E etc.

Far quicker (and cheaper) than using rollered Rustoleum, according to what I discovered, last evening when surfing.

Still, each to his own.
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[bob2]

As old wrench says I find its much more time consuming and I do not think I would do a whole car this way but when you do not have the place to do it and do not want to fork out to someone else, there is no choice.

[Old Wrench]

[bob2]

I forsee one problem though!!!!
The fact I'm in Malta and do not have any outer space bar our roof top!!!

I do have 3 garages but only one equipped with electricity and its crammed with things lke 2 of my cars, 6 or 7 bicycles, my children's ride ons and lots of parts, wood etc!!
So its definately a no way in there!!

[Old Wrench]

[bob2]

hmmm that's a good question!!!
maybe something for CSI to investigate!!!!

In general I do paint interior, engine bays and maybe small repairs on my cars but when its time to do major outer bodywork I will usually pass it on to the pros!!

[trampintransit]

Never seen that Rustoleum stuff. I'd be interested to try it ...can't even see it on ebay? Nice job on that Renault...well done.

I wanted to do a quick cheap job on my van last year. rubbed the whole thing down with 600, then ONE coat of Deep Bronze Green satin finish, applied with a gloss roller. Same colour the army use for landrovers and the like. Incredible, hardly a show finish but for one days work, no masking, anda total expenditure for paint and consumables of about fifty quid.Like I say, hardly brilliant but considering the speed and ease the difference is great compared to how rubbish it looked before!!

The paint came from a supplier on ebay called something like paints4trade or something similar.


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