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peter scott
Joined: 18 Dec 2007 Posts: 7118 Location: Edinburgh
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 8:47 am Post subject: Re: Anyone else getting disillusioned with shows? |
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Richard H wrote: |
The other big problem I have with today's shows is the amount of moderns at most of them. I know times are changing and to be honest I don't mind 1980s and '90s cars in shows (as long as they don't outnumber the proper old stuff) but rows of (modified) Focuses, Mondeos, Astras and so on along with newish supercars are really dull.
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That is the problem that has stopped me from going to shows and it clearly affects many old car owners because it's not just that shows are swamped with moderns it's that the numbers of old cars is greatly diminished.
I can understand that clubs organising these events want to increase their memberships and revenues but I think we will need to start some new clubs that cater solely for old vehicles.
Peter _________________ http://www.nostalgiatech.co.uk
1939 SS Jaguar 2 1/2 litre saloon |
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52classic
Joined: 02 Oct 2008 Posts: 493 Location: Cardiff.
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:28 am Post subject: |
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Disillusioned it shows? When this thread started back in March I would have said yes. But now, with the season underway I'm remembering the fellowship of chatting with other enthusiast in a car show environment and enjoying the hobby as much as ever.
Not without frustrations mind! Last week's Barry Island bus rally was marred IMHO when a field of 'moderns' - Mainly Focus (Focii?) and BMW MINIs - turned up early, to dominate the classic display area on the sea front which relegated some stunning 'proper' classics to a dusty gravel bed out of sight behind the busses.
My taste in cars is very eclectic and I'm pleased to see any category of enthusiast' car on show. However, I do think that the organisers have a responsibility to but on a balanced event, especially when it comes to marshalling exhibitors into appropriate spaces to show the cars off to best effect.
BTW....... I'm with the dinosaurs on the techy thing! Picked up a Tesco Smartphone a couple of months ago and I haven't even enabled the Internet part of it yet. FB, to me is the devils work. My kids have'put me' on there but I've never posted anything despite being told that several hundred people are waiting to hear from me! Now they want me to understand their privacy policy - Sounds like sleight of hand to me. Worse still, the content seems to be based on people I mostly see regularly, showing me what they're having for tea or picturing themselves out on the razz yet again.
Quite happy with an oldish desktop in my mancave thanks very much. |
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Rootes75
Joined: 30 Apr 2013 Posts: 3815 Location: The Somerset Levels
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 10:04 am Post subject: |
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We went up to the Vintage Commercial show at Gaydon last weekend, its our first proper commercials only show. What an eye opener, we met some lovely people and made a lot of friends. To be honest, it was much friendlier than the car shows we attend locally.
A lot of people we know with classic cars are quite elitist about their cars or brands whereas the commercial lot all seem to be on the same level playing field. _________________ Various Rootes Vehicles. |
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lowdrag
Joined: 10 Apr 2009 Posts: 1585 Location: Le Mans
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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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The police knocked on the door yesterday. Full of concern, I opened it, and they asked me if Saturday next I could put one of my cars on display to help raise funds for children. Suddenly I was all smiles and ready to help. Hopefully, if I am caught speeding I have one in the bank! |
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old iron
Joined: 22 Mar 2016 Posts: 185
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Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 12:11 pm Post subject: |
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Amongst my old books I have a souvenir program from the ‘Sudbury mamouth olde tyme rally’s 1973’ The exhibits included :
53 x veteran cars pre 1918
44 x vintage cars pre 1930
51 x post vintage cars pre 1940
Additionally American cars, commercial and motorcycles exhibiting.
Sudbury is a typical small Suffolk town. Times have certainly changed as have the exhibits classifications. Extremely rare to see a veteran car at local shows now and even vintage cars are becoming scarce. Recently I sold my vintage car in favour of a more modern (1958) car, mainly owing to spares back-up. |
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BigJohn
Joined: 01 Jan 2011 Posts: 954 Location: Wem, Shropshire
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Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 1:04 pm Post subject: |
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old iron wrote: | Amongst my old books I have a souvenir program from the ‘Sudbury mamouth olde tyme rally’s 1973’ The exhibits included :
53 x veteran cars pre 1918
44 x vintage cars pre 1930
51 x post vintage cars pre 1940
Additionally American cars, commercial and motorcycles exhibiting.
Sudbury is a typical small Suffolk town. Times have certainly changed as have the exhibits classifications. Extremely rare to see a veteran car at local shows now and even vintage cars are becoming scarce. Recently I sold my vintage car in favour of a more modern (1958) car, mainly owing to spares back-up. |
1973 was 45yrs ago, a 45yr old car then would date from 1928. This to me puts in perspective of car shows to younger enthusiasts, a car from 1973 is ancient to some now, as a car from 1928 would have been in 1973 to my friends. The hobby has to evolve or lose younger members.
Factor in the safety issues of driving pre war (I'm not including sporting or luxury models here) any distance in modern traffic and you end up with more modern content and that unfortunately for some includes recent cars. This is not just Focus RS's or ST's, Subaru's etc. but Jags, BMWs, and Mercs on their respective club stands. |
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Rootes75
Joined: 30 Apr 2013 Posts: 3815 Location: The Somerset Levels
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Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 1:25 pm Post subject: |
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I would still like to see a greater turn out of pre-war cars at our local shows. _________________ Various Rootes Vehicles. |
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old iron
Joined: 22 Mar 2016 Posts: 185
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Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 3:14 pm Post subject: |
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BigJohn wrote: | old iron wrote: | Amongst my old books I have a souvenir program from the ‘Sudbury mamouth olde tyme rally’s 1973’ The exhibits included :
53 x veteran cars pre 1918
44 x vintage cars pre 1930
51 x post vintage cars pre 1940
Additionally American cars, commercial and motorcycles exhibiting.
Sudbury is a typical small Suffolk town. Times have certainly changed as have the exhibits classifications. Extremely rare to see a veteran car at local shows now and even vintage cars are becoming scarce. Recently I sold my vintage car in favour of a more modern (1958) car, mainly owing to spares back-up. |
1973 was 45yrs ago, a 45yr old car then would date from 1928. This to me puts in perspective of car shows to younger enthusiasts, a car from 1973 is ancient to some now, as a car from 1928 would have been in 1973 to my friends. The hobby has to evolve or lose younger members.
Factor in the safety issues of driving pre war (I'm not including sporting or luxury models here) any distance in modern traffic and you end up with more modern content and that unfortunately for some includes recent cars. This is not just Focus RS's or ST's, Subaru's etc. but Jags, BMWs, and Mercs on their respective club stands. |
Indeed, my point exactly, in terms of relative car age on display not much has changed. |
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