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Ray White
Joined: 02 Dec 2014 Posts: 6318 Location: Derby
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Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2023 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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I suppose 15 years ago the values were rock bottom. These cars were undervalued for a long time but I think they may be getting appreciated more now.
I think those colours do look a bit odd though. I would respray it. |
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Penman
Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 4759 Location: Swindon, Wilts.
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Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2023 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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Millers Guide for 2001 gives :-
Condition 1) £7000.
Condition 2 £4000
Condition 3 £1500 _________________ Bristols should always come in pairs.
Any 2 from:-
Straight 6
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Ray White
Joined: 02 Dec 2014 Posts: 6318 Location: Derby
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Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2023 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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An unlikely clue to a hidden disaster with the Ash body frame on these cars is that cracks appear towards the end of the narrow strips of metal above and below the spare wheel carrier lid. One could easily dismiss this as general wear and tear of the aluminium. That would be a mistake. |
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alastairq
Joined: 14 Oct 2016 Posts: 1954 Location: East Yorkshire
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Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2023 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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Used to be a lad living near Drax, who had these ACs....?
Last I saw him, he had a bare ally saloon, minus its roof, making it a 4 seater type of Buckland?
The AC 6 cylinder engine was a very old design, possibly going back to the 1920s?
His preference for power was the Ford inline six [Zephyr/Zodiac?]
I believe AC also offered this engine [as a cheaper option?] in their Ace sports car as well as the Bristol sixpot? _________________ Dellow Mk2, 1951 built, reg 1952.
Fiat 126 BIS
Cannon special [1996 registered. Built in 1950's]
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Ford Pop chassis, Ashley 1172 bodyshell, in pieces. |
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mikeC
Joined: 31 Jul 2009 Posts: 1775 Location: Market Warsop, Nottinghamshire
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Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2023 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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badhuis wrote: |
Never realised that metallic was an option back then. For the early 50s Sunbeam Alpine yes (light blue metallic) but did not know for the AC as well. Does this seem original then?
The two tone dividing looks a bit home-decided.
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The two-tone treatment is non-original, but the light green could well be the original or a close match. The AC was available in several metallic colours, light green, pale blue, silver and mid-grey, and possibly maroon although I'm not so sure of that. Rootes had been using metallic colours on their Talbot and Sunbeam-Talbot range since 1936. _________________ in the garage: 1938 Talbot Ten Airline
Recently departed: 1953 Lancia Appia, 1931 Austin Seven, 1967 Singer Chamois, 1914 Saxon, 1930 Morris Cowley, 1936 BSA Scout, 1958 Lancia Appia coupe, 1922 Star 11.9 ... the list goes on! |
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V8 Nutter
Joined: 27 Aug 2012 Posts: 587
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Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2023 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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Studebaker was probably the first company to introduce metallic paint about 1930. The metallic effect was obtained by mixing dried fish scales in the paint |
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nascar24
Joined: 08 Dec 2007 Posts: 26 Location: Sunny Newton Abbot!
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Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2023 11:13 pm Post subject: 2 Door British Medium Sized Saloons Built 1950-56 |
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Good range of replies, thanks but i need to be more specific on what i am looking for so do i start a new thread or shall i plough on?
Ploughing on, looking for 2 door medium sized [approx 14ft long] basic saloons up to 1600 cc that were available in the UK from 1949 to 1955. I dont think there were many unless you know otherwise........? |
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nascar24
Joined: 08 Dec 2007 Posts: 26 Location: Sunny Newton Abbot!
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Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2023 11:14 pm Post subject: 2 Door British Medium Sized Saloons Built 1950-56 |
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Good range of replies, thanks but i need to be more specific on what i am looking for so do i start a new thread or shall i plough on?
Ploughing on, looking for 2 door medium sized [approx 14ft long] basic saloons up to 1600 cc that were available in the UK from 1949 to 1955. I dont think there were many unless you know otherwise........? |
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mikeC
Joined: 31 Jul 2009 Posts: 1775 Location: Market Warsop, Nottinghamshire
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Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2023 8:05 am Post subject: |
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That's a pretty restrictive range; I can't think of any two-door 1500-1600cc cars, you have to look at smaller cars like the Austin Dorset, Ford Anglia and Hillman Husky, all of which were around 1200cc, or even smaller ones like the A30/35 and Morris Minor. _________________ in the garage: 1938 Talbot Ten Airline
Recently departed: 1953 Lancia Appia, 1931 Austin Seven, 1967 Singer Chamois, 1914 Saxon, 1930 Morris Cowley, 1936 BSA Scout, 1958 Lancia Appia coupe, 1922 Star 11.9 ... the list goes on! |
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Ray White
Joined: 02 Dec 2014 Posts: 6318 Location: Derby
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Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2023 9:01 am Post subject: |
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I would ask why 2 doors in particular. Cars with 4 seats are more practical with 4 doors are they not? |
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alastairq
Joined: 14 Oct 2016 Posts: 1954 Location: East Yorkshire
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Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2023 9:28 am Post subject: |
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Ray White wrote: | I would ask why 2 doors in particular. Cars with 4 seats are more practical with 4 doors are they not? |
Longer doors on 2 door bodies, generally speaking?
Aids entry & egress for those of us not as flexible as we used to be?
2 door Moggie Minor preferable for OAPs to 4 door, for that reason?
I think the biggest aid to ease of entry for drivers has to be suicide doors?
I used to own a Sprite....and could get in & out reasonably well, for someone in their twenties. Access was improved once I fitted a slightly smaller diameter steering wheel.
I can no longer get into a Spridget these days...especially with the standard [factory] steering wheel in place.
Oddly enough, I can get in & out of the Dellow[which is much more cramped and confined, cockpit-wise, than any tin production sports car]...simply because the door's aperture is slightly more forwards than in a Sprite.....the steering wheel, whilst large in diameter, is also nearer my chest, so my knees slide comfortably behind [in front of?] it...Not so with the more commonplace small sports cars.
{Once ensconced, the driving position, leg-wise, is akin to one or two yoga positoons....no room to put left foot at all, so I have to remember to lift it slightly away from the clutch pedal now & again. All very awkward, but does wonder for lower back pain.} _________________ Dellow Mk2, 1951 built, reg 1952.
Fiat 126 BIS
Cannon special [1996 registered. Built in 1950's]
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Ford Pop chassis, Ashley 1172 bodyshell, in pieces. |
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Ray White
Joined: 02 Dec 2014 Posts: 6318 Location: Derby
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Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2023 10:32 am Post subject: |
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I was thinking about getting in and out of the back, rather than the front.
I don't wish to sound alarmist but being a rear seat passenger in a 2 door saloon is not a good place to be in a head on accident.
( not as bad as being in the front, of course! ) |
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Bitumen Boy
Joined: 26 Jan 2012 Posts: 1735 Location: Above the snow line in old Monmouthshire
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Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2023 11:24 am Post subject: |
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The longer doors on a 2 door car might make it easier to get in and out when there's plenty of room to open them fully, but in a typically cramped car park space they actually make it harder - the shorter door of a 4 door car can open wider. |
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Bitumen Boy
Joined: 26 Jan 2012 Posts: 1735 Location: Above the snow line in old Monmouthshire
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Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2023 11:29 am Post subject: |
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The longer doors on a 2 door car might make it easier to get in and out when there's plenty of room to open them fully, but in a typically cramped car park space they actually make it harder - the shorter door of a 4 door car can open wider. |
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Ray White
Joined: 02 Dec 2014 Posts: 6318 Location: Derby
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Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2023 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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My A30 had two doors and was less practical compared with the 4 door versions that were about at the time.
If you had two passengers to drop off at different locations a decision had to be made as to who would sit in the back. It was all a bit academic really because when the front passenger got out, the person sitting in the back would get out too as they would prefer to sit in the front.! |
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