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Keith D · Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 7:08 am Post subject:

Vickers, Hawker and Bristol didn't do too badly out of the UK government either. Not to mention Austin and Morris, as well as other car munufacturers who also did very well, benifitting from the war. They were all private companies too.
I am not intending to support the Nazis, who must rate as the biggest pack of bast##ds in the history of the world.
I have visited BMW in Munich and am very aware of what they got up to in the war. They were, I believe, the first big German company to own up. It is all very clearly documented in the BMW museum. However, I do wonder at how much they were 'forced' to behave as they did, and understanding at the same time that it was inexcusable.
But Alastairq has it right, "to the victor, the spoils."
I think I am "annoyed" at the way that Bristol, a comany with very little previous car manufacturing experience, is handed one of the best performance cars of the thirties and was always very shy about where it came from. It took me ages when a youngster in the fifties to confirm that it was, as the design suggested, a prewar BMW.
The Bristol Car Club don't even mention BMW on their history of the cars, on their current web page. Check it out. You can go to to Wikipedia to find the complete involved story.

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peter scott · Joined: 18 Dec 2007 Posts: 7118 Location: Edinburgh

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lowdrag · Joined: 10 Apr 2009 Posts: 1585 Location: Le Mans

The biggest suppliers were I believe I G Farben and Krupps. Maybach and Dornier, hidden at the foot of the Alps, didn't do badly either.

Off topic completely, but the book Operation Crossbow is of great interest, detailing very thoroughly the development of the V1 and V2 and mentions a number of companies involved.

Ray White · Joined: 02 Dec 2014 Posts: 6316 Location: Derby

Incidentally, I may not be a purist ... but those indicators look ridiculous on the front wings. Probably the first thing I would do would be to remove them.

peter scott · Joined: 18 Dec 2007 Posts: 7118 Location: Edinburgh

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Penman · Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 4757 Location: Swindon, Wilts.

An idea I saw once, on a similar aged car, was indicators mounted on easily removable brackets clipped to the dumb irons. So they had modern indicators when on the road, then unclipped/unplugged them at shows so the vehicle appeared to have it's semaphores only.
The flashing indicators were similar to the round ones many M/bikes have on the ends of their handlebars.
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peter scott · Joined: 18 Dec 2007 Posts: 7118 Location: Edinburgh

For those with front fog lamps..

https://youtu.be/ojxUlLjZNiw

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Ray White · Joined: 02 Dec 2014 Posts: 6316 Location: Derby

Ray White · Joined: 02 Dec 2014 Posts: 6316 Location: Derby

This seems to be a popular option for flashing indicators on the MG T series. I have simply taken some side lights (Lucas 1130) and turned them through 90 degrees. Mounted high up on the petrol tank end panels they have a white/diffused lens with an orange bulb. As the end panels are purely cosmetic reproductions I had no qualms about using them for this. The wiring is hidden behind the panel and exits through a grommeted hole at the bottom rear corner.

I have taken a separate earth wire to a point on the chassis; not trusting to the vagaries of a timber frame.

peter scott · Joined: 18 Dec 2007 Posts: 7118 Location: Edinburgh

That's all looking very neat Ray. I wonder if the lights would be less obtrusive with amber glasses (better still red glasses. Would your MOT tester let you away with red?)

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Ray White · Joined: 02 Dec 2014 Posts: 6316 Location: Derby

ukdave2002 · Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 4105 Location: South Cheshire

I?d leave as is, there is no perfect way of adding flashing indicators whilst maintaining originality imho, amber lenses look to modern, the combination brake/ indicator isn't perfect, if you are having to add a non original feature it needs to do the job well, so white lenses with orange bulbs gets my vote.

Dave

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Bitumen Boy · Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 8:56 pm Post subject:

I think the white/clear lenses look better than amber ones would tbh, they look quite smart next to the chrome. As for red lenses, even if they were permitted I don't think they would be a great idea; a flashing red lamp is going to confuse most drivers on the road these days but everyone knows - or at least should know - the meaning of a flashing amber lamp Smile