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Old-Nail
Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 853
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Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 1:59 pm Post subject: Painting galvanised steel. |
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Has anyone here ever painted galvanised steel? And if so does it take well or do you need special prep? |
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47p2
Joined: 24 Nov 2007 Posts: 2009 Location: Glasgow
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Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 2:09 pm Post subject: |
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O-N, you will need to use special paints and primers for galvinised metal.
Personally I have found the paint does not adhere to the metal very well and it flakes off after a while _________________ ROVER
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Old-Nail
Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 853
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Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you.
My chassis is galvanised steel so I was wondering whether to paint it or not, I suppose rather than incur the extra expense I should leave it alone and paint just the suspension parts etc. |
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Uncle Joe Guest
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Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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Theres a for me interesting thing here. If the people that galvanized your chassis in the first place had been bright enough, then they would have painted the chassis as soon as they could after treatment.
What happens later is that an oxide forms on the surface, making it difficult to paint. Paint will stick to a galvanized surface, but not to the oxide.
Some will tell you that you can wait until the surface has weathered, and then it will be possible. It would be, if we lived in a world that didnt have airborne pollutants.
The correct method to paint would simply be remove the oxide, then use a latex (water based!) paint....it is possible.
So to all intents and purpose, 47P2 is spot on.... |
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Rick Site Admin
Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 22472 Location: UK
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Uncle Joe Guest
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Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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You only need to ask me Rick!
Galvanised surfaces are blasted in a specific way with crystaline iron titanium oxide, with a grain size of max 0,4mm. Doesnt everyone know that? |
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Greeney in France
Joined: 06 Mar 2008 Posts: 1173 Location: Limousin area of France
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Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:30 pm Post subject: |
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Finnigans (the hammerite people) supply a special water based primer paint to cover galvanised before you paint with hammerite _________________ www.OldFrenchCars.com
We do these things not to escape life but to prevent life escaping us |
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Uncle Joe Guest
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Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:10 pm Post subject: |
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Funny thing is, I welded up some galvanized pipe this morning for a chimney....and thats going to need painting! |
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47p2
Joined: 24 Nov 2007 Posts: 2009 Location: Glasgow
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Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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Uncle Joe wrote: | You only need to ask me Rick!
Galvanised surfaces are blasted in a specific way with crystaline iron titanium oxide, with a grain size of max 0,4mm. Doesnt everyone know that? |
Of course UJ....we all knew this
Just it had slipped to the back of my memory and I'm so glad you reminded me _________________ ROVER
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Old-Nail
Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 853
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Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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The Hammerite solution sounds good - I'll do some investigating! |
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Uncle Joe Guest
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Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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I assume the paint that Greeney is referring to is the one they call Special Metals Primer. The question the question that should be asked is, can this be coated with anything, not just Hammerite? |
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Greeney in France
Joined: 06 Mar 2008 Posts: 1173 Location: Limousin area of France
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Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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Yes it is just a Special barrier primer paint, I have used it for all sorts of paints and they are still stable
We was talking 2k paints yesterday, 2k etch or wash primers are good too _________________ www.OldFrenchCars.com
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Greeney in France
Joined: 06 Mar 2008 Posts: 1173 Location: Limousin area of France
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Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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Forgot to mention too if you really want to got he whole hog so to speak powdercoating is the best method to cover galvanised steel it will last for years _________________ www.OldFrenchCars.com
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Old-Nail
Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 853
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Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 7:07 pm Post subject: |
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I envisage one day finding the classic of my dreams, having a large heated workshop and very deep pockets, then I would... *POP*!.....my fantasy Is interrupted and I realise that I don't have any of those things....and Hammerite it is then! |
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Uncle Joe Guest
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Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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Thats what we all envisage O-N, not just you!
Back to the topic, on the little job that I will be doing, irrespective of the type of paint I use, I still think that I will do a sweep blast of the surface. Better to be safe than sorry! Though I will admit, in this particular case, it doesnt matter much if it flakes.... |
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