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ukdave2002
Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 4105 Location: South Cheshire
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 10:10 am Post subject: Home Made Rust Converter |
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I think it has been mentioned on the forum before that a molasses concoction will produce a good rust converter, thought I would give it a try, here are the results;
I was a bit lazy in getting hold of some molasses, popped down to Sainsbury’s and bought a 454g tin of “Lyles black treacle” ! Should have gone to a farm shop where molasses is sold as animal feed additive for a fraction of the cost, that said the treacle was only a couple of quid.
I diluted the tin of treacle in a bowl of warm water 8 times the volume of the treacle, the warm water lets the treacle flow. The first candidates were 10 Morris 8 brake slave cylinders which I left in for about a week and was amazed at the results, unfortunately I didn’t take any pic’s.
2nd job was a Morris timing chain sprocket, which is NOS but been badly stored, and a old Morris master cylinder cap, the master cylinder on the Morris is mounted underneath the car so very exposed , here are the before pics;
And after about a week;
I don’t know what the best method is for speeding up the process, the rust seems to turn to a very flaky black substance, which I would brush off every couple of days and then put the things back in to the solution.
I’m pleased with the results, very cheap and environmentally friendly into the bargain |
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Uncle Joe Guest
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 10:40 am Post subject: |
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UK, I am amazed! I had thought that this was just another old wives tale. How wrong I was!
I will admit though, when you live in a country that doesnt have treacle on sale, there are better uses for the odd can that one can get hold of! |
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47p2
Joined: 24 Nov 2007 Posts: 2009 Location: Glasgow
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 11:10 am Post subject: |
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Amazing results. I am impressed.
Did you dip the items or coat them? _________________ ROVER
One of Britain's Fine Cars |
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Old-Nail
Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 853
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 11:18 am Post subject: |
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Great experiment UK thanks for posting. How did you come up with the 8:1 ratio? I wonder if other ratios might be the key to faster results?
Whatever it's better than paying £6 a bottle for that Hammerite green gloop.
I should keep the garage doors closed in summer though! |
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ukdave2002
Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 4105 Location: South Cheshire
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 1:44 pm Post subject: |
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I was sceptical about it working,!! did a bit of research and found it did have scientific backup, although I didn’t understand the chemistry it’s called a Chelating process well documented.
47p2 wrote: | Amazing results. I am impressed.
Did you dip the items or coat them? |
The parts were dipped in the solution; the solution I made was very watery so coating was not an option.
Old-Nail wrote: | Great experiment UK thanks for posting. How did you come up with the 8:1 ratio? I wonder if other ratios might be the key to faster results?
Whatever it's better than paying £6 a bottle for that Hammerite green gloop.
I should keep the garage doors closed in summer though! |
I read an article about someone making the solution up, the molasses he had could be poured, and he used a 6:1 ratio, I used 8:1 on the assumption that the treacle I had was thicker and therefore more concentrated? I don’t know how critical it is and if you could speed things up with a more concentrated solution. |
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Greeney in France
Joined: 06 Mar 2008 Posts: 1173 Location: Limousin area of France
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 2:13 pm Post subject: |
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I understand heating the solution and simmering while object is immersed is the quicker method what would normally take 2/3day will take 2/3hours
Good test though
I think I have said before I have used cocacola many times and I know of a company that uses a sugar beet solution too _________________ www.OldFrenchCars.com
We do these things not to escape life but to prevent life escaping us |
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Job-Rated
Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 1010 Location: Sugarbeet County
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 5:35 pm Post subject: |
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Sweet job, Dave! _________________ Don't run your fingers over my truck & I won't run my truck over your fingers!
http://www.loosechange-band.co.uk/ |
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Rick Site Admin
Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 22449 Location: UK
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buzzy bee
Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 3382 Location: South Cheshire
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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Hi
I did do this with some tools a while back, and it works, but I never took before pics, it does really show how much of a difference ther is!
I was telling UK this morning, I had probably 25 gallon of this molases, but couldn't find space to store it, was fed up of knocking buckets of the stuff over as it is sticky stuff, so poured it on the garden, now the soil is ultra fertile!
Cheers
Dave |
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Greeney in France
Joined: 06 Mar 2008 Posts: 1173 Location: Limousin area of France
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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I have a lidded dustbin in the corner of the barn with my solution in it, easy just to chuck in the odd item _________________ www.OldFrenchCars.com
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Old-Nail
Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 853
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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Greeney in France wrote: | I have a lidded dustbin in the corner of the barn with my solution in it, easy just to chuck in the odd item |
I've just been to Tesco and bought two gallons of CocaCola so I'm going to do the overnight coke test.
Here are the unsuspecting demisting vents in a 'before' shot.
Unfortunately I have nothing shallow enough to completely cover them so they will have to be turned around in the bucket in the morning and the uncovered side done. |
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Greeney in France
Joined: 06 Mar 2008 Posts: 1173 Location: Limousin area of France
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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I completely freed up a seized door hinge with coca cola left it 3days
I hope it is quality cola? _________________ www.OldFrenchCars.com
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Old-Nail
Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 853
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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Now you didn't put stipulations on it Tesco cola at 20p per two litre bottle, I think at that price it must only be fit for de-rusting! |
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Greeney in France
Joined: 06 Mar 2008 Posts: 1173 Location: Limousin area of France
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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Normally gut derusting _________________ www.OldFrenchCars.com
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Old-Nail
Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 853
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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I have visions of the finished car being chased up the road by a swarm of wasps! |
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