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Jim.Walker
Joined: 27 Dec 2008 Posts: 1229 Location: Chesterfield
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Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 12:05 pm Post subject: |
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Keith D wrote: | Jim,
I'm not nit picking, but Austin Sevens most definitely DO have oil pumps!
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Sorry Keith, I was trying to make a point and obviously my recall failed me. As old as I am, pre-Second World War cars were still (almost all) before I was born and though I worked on a few survivors in the Nineteen Fifties the memories are a bit hazy!
Jim (at least, I THINK that's my name). _________________ Quote from my late Dad:- You only need a woman and a car and you have all the problems you
are ever likely to want". Computers had not been invented then! |
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HMK
Joined: 19 Aug 2009 Posts: 42
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Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 4:42 am Post subject: |
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Yes, I was just going to say that I was sure that Austin sevens had oil pumps. I'm not a "seven" expert, but the last time I travelled in one was about 2 years ago & about 50 miles & it definitely had an oil pressure gauge. I seem to think the reading was quite low - something like no more than 10 psi, could have been even less at times, but didn't seem to bother it.
As for semi or synthetic oil in 'older' engines - it is VERY good for the metal bits of the engine, but it is NOT good for the seals. I made the mistake of using a semi synthetic oil in an older engine & a once dry engine started weeping from every seal. I got rid of the semi syn & filled with proper mineral oil & within a few weeks, all the leaks from seals had stopped & the engine was nice & dry again. |
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peter scott
Joined: 18 Dec 2007 Posts: 7119 Location: Edinburgh
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Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 9:18 am Post subject: |
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I don't think synth actually damages seals. It just escapes more readily. It's good at getting everywhere.
Peter _________________ http://www.nostalgiatech.co.uk
1939 SS Jaguar 2 1/2 litre saloon |
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Nic Jarman
Joined: 05 Oct 2008 Posts: 1031 Location: Stoke by Clare, Suffolk
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Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 4:06 pm Post subject: |
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Cork and rope seals have no hope of keeping 10/40 semi where it should be so for some pre-war cars I am afraid its treakle (straight 50 or 40). Some seals can be replaced with modern ones or treat them as total loss oil systems. _________________ 1936 Morris 8 Series 1
1973 MGB roadster
1977 MG Midget 1500
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Salopian
Joined: 05 Jan 2010 Posts: 354 Location: Newport Shropshire
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Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 8:33 am Post subject: |
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I've used Valvoline 10w50 fully synthetic (acquired some old stock at a very good price) in my 1928 Sunbeam 20.9hp with complete success. No leaks smooth running and best of all much reduced difference between hot/cold pressure.
It never uses much oil anyway and did not with the synthetic.
One consideration with such as the Sunbeam and my Alvis 12/50 are the oil pump bevel drive gears - such as a straight 50 grade oil will give silly high oil pressure cold and these gears can fail.
An oil thread can go on for ever and we all have our favourites but I use modern multigrades and have done for years without problem.
Anyway to get on topic sounds like blocked rad to me but hope its something simple! _________________ Jonathan Butler
Alvis SD 12/50 1928 MG TD 1950 |
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Nic Jarman
Joined: 05 Oct 2008 Posts: 1031 Location: Stoke by Clare, Suffolk
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Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 10:18 am Post subject: |
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Just for interest. Multigrades are made of base oil then a long chain polymer is added, eg Paratone viscosity index improver. ( I asked someone else, I'm not that smart). _________________ 1936 Morris 8 Series 1
1973 MGB roadster
1977 MG Midget 1500
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traction39
Joined: 19 May 2009 Posts: 399 Location: South Wales
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Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 10:55 am Post subject: |
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What ratio of anti-freeze to water are you using? Too much anti-freeze will lower the boiling point...maybe with higher engine loads the radiator cannot cope?
Just a thought..it was a cold winter! |
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Nic Jarman
Joined: 05 Oct 2008 Posts: 1031 Location: Stoke by Clare, Suffolk
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Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 12:59 pm Post subject: |
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I use 50/50 anti freeze/ deionised water, seems to work fine and I replace it every 2 years. I was also doing some prep work on the B and found the thermostat housing casting quite corroded inside and the outlet was resticted to about 50%, I thought " um, this could make it overheat". And I thought of you. _________________ 1936 Morris 8 Series 1
1973 MGB roadster
1977 MG Midget 1500
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buzzy bee
Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 3382 Location: South Cheshire
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Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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Hi
50:50 seemed to protect to -55 acording to my hydrometer, any more and it starts to go down again (or up if you like!)
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traction39
Joined: 19 May 2009 Posts: 399 Location: South Wales
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Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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-55 degrees! Guess Suffolk gets pretty cold in winter!!! |
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victor 101
Joined: 03 Apr 2009 Posts: 446 Location: East Yorkshire
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Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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Like Nic I use a 50/50 with deionised water, not so much for the low temp but as engine protection. |
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WLC4EVA Guest
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Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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Mike (MV Peters) asked "Does anyone have any hands-on experience of synthetic oils in vintage motors? "
Yes Mike.
What do you wish to know?
Kind Regards, WLC
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buzzy bee
Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 3382 Location: South Cheshire
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Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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I wouldn't even try! hehe |
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WLC4EVA Guest
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Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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Why wouldn't you even try it Buzzy?
Kind Regards, WLC |
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Nic Jarman
Joined: 05 Oct 2008 Posts: 1031 Location: Stoke by Clare, Suffolk
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Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:06 am Post subject: |
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Buzzy just loves replacing bearings.
Buzzy, you are using a computer. _________________ 1936 Morris 8 Series 1
1973 MGB roadster
1977 MG Midget 1500
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