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Bluesbreaker
Joined: 22 Sep 2010 Posts: 14
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Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 8:37 am Post subject: Different kinds of welding |
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Hi there
I've been wondering about different kinds of welding. When restoring a car, does it really matter how you weld it?
This question came up when someone told me that "you can't arc-weld that" when I was welding something on a project.
I mostly arc-weld, because I find it quite easy and quick, and because I can't afford a fancy MIG even though I would like to have one.
Some people even TIG weld, which is quite cool.
So guys, does it really make a difference, if it gets the job done?
Cheers,
Niko _________________ I just love old cars!
Saab 96 V4 1973
Saab 96 V4 1974
Saab 96L V4 Super 1977 |
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Phil - Nottingham
Joined: 01 Jan 2008 Posts: 1252 Location: Nottingham
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Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 1:02 pm Post subject: |
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I agree it does not matter subject to MOT requirements but you have to be a really skilled welder to do arcing neatly on thin car body steel _________________ Rover P2
Rover P4
Rover P5 & P5B
Land Rover S2 & S3
Morris Mini Traveller Mk2 |
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Nic Jarman
Joined: 05 Oct 2008 Posts: 1031 Location: Stoke by Clare, Suffolk
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Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 12:17 pm Post subject: |
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I picked up a "pocket" Cebora for nothing. I replaced some parts in the gun and the liner. It works very well, even had my welding complimented . Don't buy a budget welder they can be crap. _________________ 1936 Morris 8 Series 1
1973 MGB roadster
1977 MG Midget 1500
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michael1703
Joined: 22 Jul 2009 Posts: 349 Location: suffolk
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Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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Get a good secondhand mig on Ebay, get something 130-180 amp, dont use flux cored wire and dont use pub gas.
get argoshield light from boc or cougar from air produts they do a size that about 2 ft tall which is £30 per year rental and you should get a few years out of one fill of gas, theyre equivalent to over 100 disposable bottles which cost £7-£12 a time http://www.mig-welding.co.uk/wiki/Gas_Price_Spreadsheet
those disposable bottles only give 10mins of welding each, less if its windy.
you get what you pay for though, avoid early sip/maypole because the wire feed is crap and theyre a pain to set up
avoid cheap chinese,wolf,etc get one with a euro torch if you can afford it
check the range, some cheaper ones only go as low as 40amp, most go to 30amp, i spent a bit more to get a portamig 215 which goes down to 20amp
use 0.6 wire on thin stuff and 0.8 on anything thicker than sheet metal, you should be able to weld up to 6-8mm on most welders in that ampage range
you should get 20+years out of a mig set so think of your long term needs
check here for info
http://www.mig-welding.co.uk/mig.htm |
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