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Old Wrench

Joined: 23 Dec 2013
Posts: 226
Location: Essex and France

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 12:27 pm Post subject:

petermeachem wrote:

It's a 1934 Austin Ruby. It had a lot of surface rust so I stripped it back to bare metal and epoxy primered it. Then moved house.

Thanks for this: I know the car, little gems.

You seek a Maroon: how about the old 1960s Roote's Group Maroon as used on Singer cars particularly the Gazelle?

Comme ça?

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=singer+gazelle+cars+sale&sa=X&tbm=isch&imgil=jYw6cGoeRxSb9M%253A%253Bhttps%253A%252F%252Fencrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com%252Fimages%253Fq%253Dtbn%253AANd9GcRirt1RcL0_wqjQzQ58zhzEK1-_dGSvFsg3Q1yw3oGqB8PKFZZdhQ%253B700%253B437%253BLKlIqJm7ReK5WM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.oldclassiccar.co.uk%25252Fsingergazelle.htm&source=iu&usg=__miWF2SAT7uKTTXjN9G8JGydqF-I%3D&ei=Gb7DU-zCLMPQ7Abv7YHwCg&ved=0CDEQ9QEwAw&biw=1150&bih=731#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=5czJ1LITeyHkKM%253A%3B0xjpWXREH25QaM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.simoncars.co.uk%252Faudax%252Fslides%252Ft_Singer%252520Gazelle%252520Series%252520IIIA%252520tail.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.simoncars.co.uk%252Faudax%252Faudaxg.html%3B1054%3B710

Perhaps this pic of a Super Snipe gives a better colour tone.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humber_Super_Snipe

Sorry about the width of my post: can't seem to make the URL tag work?

petermeachem

Joined: 23 Sep 2013
Posts: 358
Location: Chichester Sussex

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 12:35 pm Post subject:

That's a nice one. Thanks. There is a current (or so) Ford colour which looks ok too. I really should press on with the car.

colwyn500

Joined: 21 Oct 2012
Posts: 1745
Location: Nairn, Scotland

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 12:41 pm Post subject:

...also some clues here i think..., http://pub25.bravenet.com/forum/static/show.php?usernum=2099944454&frmid=5&msgid=960135&cmd=show

Old Wrench

Joined: 23 Dec 2013
Posts: 226
Location: Essex and France

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 1:16 pm Post subject:

petermeachem wrote:

That's a nice one. Thanks. There is a current (or so) Ford colour which looks ok too.
I really should press on with the car.

If it is already rust-proofed and epoxied then no real rush, Peter.

And despite the other posts I have seen in this forum, regarding damp invading Primer-Surfacer, well I have never ever seen this!

We commonly used to leave a base prepped car in PS for some time, (i) pressure of other smaller jobs and (ii) To allow decent hardening of the surfacer prior to continuing. Indeed, a job rushed, was a job ruined, in my lexicon!

The star job, perhaps was an Anglia 105E ex works Broadspeed Class 2 saloon, which a racing chum wanted to restore to original Rolls Royce Regal Red metallic maroon with a silver metallic top, after loads of panel work on extended arches etc. The whole job extended over weeks, finally finished with 15 coats of ICI Belco cellulose paint and lacquer and stopped the paddock at Lyddon circuit in Kent when he took it off the trailer the first time!

(By then I had switched from Belco to Valentines, which I preferred. However my chum had bummed gallons of the bloody stuff from ICI, gratis, as he worked for Ford Competitions Dept at the time.)

I would personally start with a coat or two of high build Synthetic Primer to build up the surface preparatory to thinking of anything else. Then block off. Then a decent coat of cellulose Primer-Surfacer and any little blemishes are smoothed out with stopper (Cellulose Stopper).

Worth remembering, you can spray cellulose over synthetic primer but not synthetic over extant cellulose!

It "pickles", dreadfully"

Hope it goes well.

Any probs then PM me.

Smile

petermeachem

Joined: 23 Sep 2013
Posts: 358
Location: Chichester Sussex

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 1:31 pm Post subject:

Thanks for that, I'll do that. Broadspeed Anglias were fantastic, terrific cars

Old Wrench

Joined: 23 Dec 2013
Posts: 226
Location: Essex and France

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 7:41 pm Post subject:

petermeachem wrote:

Thanks for that, I'll do that.
Broadspeed Anglias were fantastic, terrific cars

They were indeed.

Interesting history on this particular car.

Ford Comps ordered a couple of extras from Ralph Broad, for exhibition and show purposes.

When I worked for the Ford Europe, the car sat on a dais in the Central Office at Warley, Brentwood and I used to walk past it almost daily. (1966-67)

As I said, my chum purchased the car and started playing with it; he was unable to start it, however!

So, onto the trailer and he brought it along to my garage one Saturday morning.

Now, there has always been some contention over the engine! It was definitely downdraft aspirated and definitely 1200 c.c. ish in order to be homologated for the FIA group in the European Touring Car Championship!

I believe the engine was a Cosworth base, around an F3 MAE, but with the five bearing crank.

The MAE was notoriously difficult to start from cold as it was so over-square and the ring gaps huge thus little suck and compression!

We often used two 12 volt batteries in series to give a quick 24 volt boost and spin the lump over muchas rapido.....

In the end I hitched it up to the works van and towed it around the green outside the garage: having woken up all the neighbours, lying in, back to the workshop!

Rolling Eyes

Problem was in the end, a cracked cylinder liner.

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