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Rootes75
Joined: 30 Apr 2013 Posts: 3828 Location: The Somerset Levels
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Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 3:34 pm Post subject: Craftmaster Paints |
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Has anyone had any experience of using Craftmaster Enamel?
I just saw a thread on a Morris forum of a chap roller painting his Minor with it? _________________ Various Rootes Vehicles. |
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Rick Site Admin
Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 22454 Location: UK
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peppiB
Joined: 30 Jun 2008 Posts: 686 Location: Newcastle upon Tyne
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Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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Becaause of chronic asthma and no longer being able to spray cellulose or 2K, Craftmaster (they are very cooperative and easy to dealwith) mixed me the correct colour for my car. I brush painted it and it looked terrible so the whole lot was removed to bare metal and the whole thing started again, spraying this time - no obnoxious smells from it.
Primer took 3 days to dry and colour top coat 2 days between layers
Colour was a good match BUT the finish made it look like a bus or commercial vehicle
The shine was also unnatural.
After running her for a couple of months I took her to a spray shop to be redone in 2K. Shame the painter was called Blind Pugh - but that is a different story |
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goneps
Joined: 18 Jun 2013 Posts: 601 Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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Rootes75
Joined: 30 Apr 2013 Posts: 3828 Location: The Somerset Levels
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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 9:38 am Post subject: |
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The Wolseley in the thread looks great.
The reason why I am interested is that a couple of my friends in the commercial scene have now used Craftmaster paints and they swear by it. I have seen some of the work first hand and there are no signs of brush marks at all, I have read on their website that you can also spray it? _________________ Various Rootes Vehicles. |
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Rick Site Admin
Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 22454 Location: UK
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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 9:46 am Post subject: |
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peppiB wrote: | Becaause of chronic asthma and no longer being able to spray cellulose or 2K, Craftmaster (they are very cooperative and easy to dealwith) mixed me the correct colour for my car. I brush painted it and it looked terrible so the whole lot was removed to bare metal and the whole thing started again, spraying this time - no obnoxious smells from it.
Primer took 3 days to dry and colour top coat 2 days between layers
Colour was a good match BUT the finish made it look like a bus or commercial vehicle
The shine was also unnatural.
After running her for a couple of months I took her to a spray shop to be redone in 2K. Shame the painter was called Blind Pugh - but that is a different story |
Nice to see the 1800, is there a thread running for it? I remember riding in an 1800S that belonged to a pal's dad in the 1970s.
RJ _________________ Rick - Admin
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peppiB
Joined: 30 Jun 2008 Posts: 686 Location: Newcastle upon Tyne
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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 11:36 am Post subject: |
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Rick wrote: | peppiB wrote: | Becaause of chronic asthma and no longer being able to spray cellulose or 2K, Craftmaster (they are very cooperative and easy to dealwith) mixed me the correct colour for my car. I brush painted it and it looked terrible so the whole lot was removed to bare metal and the whole thing started again, spraying this time - no obnoxious smells from it.
Primer took 3 days to dry and colour top coat 2 days between layers
Colour was a good match BUT the finish made it look like a bus or commercial vehicle
The shine was also unnatural.
After running her for a couple of months I took her to a spray shop to be redone in 2K. Shame the painter was called Blind Pugh - but that is a different story |
Nice to see the 1800, is there a thread running for it? I remember riding in an 1800S that belonged to a pal's dad in the 1970s.
RJ |
Rick - in the 10 years I have owned her she has given me so little trouble there wasn't enough of interest for a thread. A few years ago I changed the gearbox and renewed the rear sills, and have changed the head gasket after a bolt fell in (no idea how that happened)
The paint is an ongoing problem for me after the 'Blind Pugh' debacle (gorillas with guns made sure there were no complaints) Thankfully the place has now closed after an armed police raid discovered a drug business. Currently the car is sprayed with rattle cans - pension won't stretch far enough to enable use of another spray shop. The 1800 is my everyday car - easily coping with modern traffic |
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Rick Site Admin
Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 22454 Location: UK
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Rootes75
Joined: 30 Apr 2013 Posts: 3828 Location: The Somerset Levels
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Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 8:59 am Post subject: |
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Looking on the net, some of the finishes with coach enamel are fantastic. Very authentic for a 50's commercial. _________________ Various Rootes Vehicles. |
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goneps
Joined: 18 Jun 2013 Posts: 601 Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 4:27 pm Post subject: |
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I'd been seriously considering using coach enamel, but Craftmaster either can't or won't ship to an overseas address. The only local equivalent I've found has some troubling health warnings, eg. the product contains isocyanates, and requires use of an air-fed mask.
According to a book I have on restoration dating from the 'fifties, coach enamel is not as durable as cellulose and may require touching up from time to time. Considering that the existing cellulose finish was applied forty years ago and still looks pretty good but for general wear and tear, I'm a bit put off by that.
Has anyone experience of coach enamel's durability in the long term?
Richard
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Phil - Nottingham
Joined: 01 Jan 2008 Posts: 1252 Location: Nottingham
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Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 10:26 am Post subject: |
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Our S3 Land Rover was repainted in Coach enamel - good make but soon when dull and chalky and after 10 years its had it _________________ Rover P2
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Bitumen Boy
Joined: 26 Jan 2012 Posts: 1735 Location: Above the snow line in old Monmouthshire
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Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 2:02 pm Post subject: |
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Phil - Nottingham wrote: | Our S3 Land Rover was repainted in Coach enamel - good make but soon when dull and chalky and after 10 years its had it |
Yes, that's pretty much my experience with coach paint. However, given how much easier it is to give it another colour coat or two to refresh it compared to spraying, I don't consider it a massive disadvantage for my own purposes - but then, I like brush painting anyway, sad I know
Another thing to bear in mind with coach paint is that it cured paint can be brittle compared to cellulose, and it will tend to crack and flake on any panel that isn't perfectly rigid and tends to flex a little in use - a Herald boot lid is a good example, but doubtless other classics have similar weaknesses. |
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norustplease
Joined: 11 Apr 2011 Posts: 779 Location: Lancashire
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Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2016 11:29 am Post subject: |
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I have previously painted a couple of cars with Rustoleum using disposable foam gloss rollers, with good results. It self levels very well and you can do odd corners with disposable foam brushes.
The finish was good straight from the roller, slight orange peel, but if you leave it for a few weeks to, harden and then wet sand and polish with a cutting compound, then you can get a good mirror finish. If unsure, get yourself an old steel shelf or similar, prep it as if it were on your car and have a go.
Rustoleum Combi Color comes in a wide range of colours, is easily available in this country (look online) and has an additional advantage of having rust proofing properties. It is also low odour, and is thinned using white spirit. There are various videos on YouTube which should give some encouragement. Its an excellent alternative to a 'cheap' respray and gives a finish that is well up to the standard that you might want for a car that gets used regularly, with the added benefit that its easy to redo a panel if you get a scrape or other problem.
This is a Volvo painted with Rustoleum, straight from the roller. _________________ 1953 Citroen Traction
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Bitumen Boy
Joined: 26 Jan 2012 Posts: 1735 Location: Above the snow line in old Monmouthshire
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Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2016 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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norustplease wrote: | I have previously painted a couple of cars with Rustoleum using disposable foam gloss rollers, with good results. It self levels very well and you can do odd corners with disposable foam brushes.
The finish was good straight from the roller, slight orange peel, but if you leave it for a few weeks to, harden and then wet sand and polish with a cutting compound, then you can get a good mirror finish. If unsure, get yourself an old steel shelf or similar, prep it as if it were on your car and have a go.
Rustoleum Combi Color comes in a wide range of colours, is easily available in this country (look online) and has an additional advantage of having rust proofing properties. It is also low odour, and is thinned using white spirit. There are various videos on YouTube which should give some encouragement. Its an excellent alternative to a 'cheap' respray and gives a finish that is well up to the standard that you might want for a car that gets used regularly, with the added benefit that its easy to redo a panel if you get a scrape or other problem.
This is a Volvo painted with Rustoleum, straight from the roller. |
I keep hearing good things about Rustoleum, but do you know how well it lasts? |
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Rootes75
Joined: 30 Apr 2013 Posts: 3828 Location: The Somerset Levels
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Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2016 11:15 am Post subject: |
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The finish on the Volvo looks very good. A few videos on youtube give good demonstrations. _________________ Various Rootes Vehicles. |
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