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[ES2]

Hi - If anyone is restoring an E83W and plans to replace some damaged, faulty, rough parts I might be able to help a little with the cost of replacement or replica parts by buying the duff ones you don't want You may be surprised how low my standards are. I am planning to put a roughish one back on the road without taking the easier pickup option,and some of the things I will have to fix are borderline even for me.


Cheers


ES2

[buzzy bee]

Hi

I am getting mine legal in a rough/worked look, then am planning on titivating it as I go, a rolling restoration as it were!

What parts are you looking for???? I have a couple of bits and pieces.

Do you have any items you have duplicates of, as I may be interested!

Cheers

Dave

[ES2]

Hi Dave

I think you have seen pics of the van and I now fully understand your misgivings about the rear damage which looks like a fork lift was used in a yard rather than road accident.

I need (and almost cetainly won't find) back doors - partic LHS. Also windscreen opening fittings, sliding frame for base of drivers seat and a petrol tank.

There will be other stuff but I haven't yet cleared everything out. The only duplicates I have found so far are spare flag indicators (x2) and a vacuum tank for the windscreen mechanism - which is rusty but intact.


I will post pics whne I work out how. How far along are you with yours?


cheers


ES2

[Rick]

the vacuum tank is probably non-original, unless it was specially requested by the War Department? they were usually fitted to Prefects and the like, the vans usually did without such luxuries!!!

you may well find some doors if you trawl around long enough, although from memory they aren't particularly complex (just a skin over a wooden frame) so you may be able to make some up?

R
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[ES2]

Hi All


The rear has squared up nicely and now needs weldimg/bolting ( a length of threaded rod pulled the side in which then lifted into place) diagonal measurements suggest it is about 50mil out/ The skin of the neaarside was beaten out and offerred up. I now have to see how I am with 3 d curves and a jigsaw luckily enough wood remains for patterns. I find I have a spare U frame for the bottom of the door and a strenthened - by -corrugations panel.

I haven't yet been able to look at anothe local van to see the differences between van and car gearbox outers and the lower back central body panel is missing. A nice old teak bed headboard gets cut up tomorrow afternoon.


Anyone know if the van and car gearboxes had different gearing? Bigger wheels and heavier laden and unladen weights suggest that they should.


A quick check locally suggests that I may have to opt for car wheels and tyres or spend in Hampshire - are there alternatives?


cheers all


ES2

[buzzy bee]

Hi

The E83W's are certainly lower geared than the saloons, but not sure where.

I will send you an email later.

Cheers

Dave

[Rick]

Back axle is certainly lower geared, suspect the box is too. Look for the two mounting lugs, one either side on the side of the gearbox casing, if it has them - the box is E83W, if not its probably Pop or Prefect. The stabiliser rods attach to these lugs, and run backwards to the crossmember. FYI I believe the earlier Model Y Ford also has the lugged 'box casing.

You have a choice of wheels that will fit, 16" 17" or 18" diameter, all the same Ford pattern. Vans came on 18"s as standard. The wheel centres are also the same on some 30s Vauxhalls and Bedfords, the 5 stud VW is also there or thereabouts (although you need to check offsets etc). If you want to go down to 15" rims you'd need to find a set of Ballamy wheels, these were fitted to Specials in the 50s and 60s and cost a pretty penny now.

I'd be inclined to try and stick with 18s if only to keep the gearing as tall as possible without modifying anything.

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[buzzy bee]

Hi

The saloons had stabilisers on the boxes too didn't they, but they were lighter and went forwards not rearwards?

Cheers

Dave

[Rick]

Pops and Prefects had their stabiliser bars attached part way along where the sump joins the block from memory (never had a Pop but I've seen engines with the small brackets attached to their sides)

I got my wires crossed re the E83W, the bars go forwards to the crossmember I think, rather than backwards (obvious when you look at it in the metal, can't be sure from memory!) but they still hang off the gearbox casing, unlike the saloons.

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[ES2]

Hi Rick

Yes I do need a van g/box - a car box and the van diff together I'm told very reliably, make the van much slower so I shall be in touch.

I've had a brilliant day - three good tyres on wheels, a E83W large topped rad and a headlight, and now know how and where and how much to lift the body for the wooden crossmenbers, which had rotted away completely.and where the chassis tends to crack just ahead of the rear spring mounts iif the van has regulally carried a one ton plus load in the past.

The pickup option is dead - the body will remain uncircumcised.

I still don't fancy woodwork on doors so will try a steel frame (or get replacements.)


cheers


ES2

[Rick]

Great stuff, glad to hear it'll stay as a van!

Without surgery I'm not sure a car 'box would fit anyway, I'll have a look when I get a mo and see what gearboxes are still here, should be at least a couple tucked away

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[buzzy bee]

Hi

I think the brackets do go rearwards.

I could be wrong, without looking it is hard to remember!

Cheers

Dave

[Rick]

ES2, I spotted an advert for someone in Scotland selling the following:

rear doors rear axle engine and gearbox

No mention of condition, he's after £100 for the lot. Wasn't sure if you were sorted for usable rear doors or not?

Let me know if you want the details!

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[ES2]

Hi Rick - Yes I am interested . I have those bits but their condition is either uncertain or poor The engine lacks compression on 3 cylinders (hand turning) but that could be anything from sticky valve guides to missing pistons. And a pair of halfway decent doors would be most welcome ES2

[Rick]

ok will PM it over

R
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