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Peter_L
Joined: 10 Apr 2008 Posts: 2680 Location: New Brunswick. Canada.
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Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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Ray.. The upside of this being that with a hidden engine crank switch, the vehicle isn't quite as easy to drive away. Going back to some earlier posts, I would find it interesting to know what internal part of the switch fails ? In the end, this episode by be a blessing in disguise. |
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Ray White
Joined: 02 Dec 2014 Posts: 6313 Location: Derby
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Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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Peter_L wrote: | Ray.. The upside of this being that with a hidden engine crank switch, the vehicle isn't quite as easy to drive away. Going back to some earlier posts, I would find it interesting to know what internal part of the switch fails ? In the end, this episode by be a blessing in disguise. |
Peter; I am temped to rip the blessed switch open to find out what has failed. Only, if I do that I will forfeit a refund...
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Peter_L
Joined: 10 Apr 2008 Posts: 2680 Location: New Brunswick. Canada.
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Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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I see about £30+VAT for a Lucas One and £15+VAT for a "No Name".... You're right, take the refund £'s and buy some wine...
You said I win.... No Ray.. you win.. the rest of us are just here to annoy you and give advice ... Stay Safe |
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petelang
Joined: 21 May 2009 Posts: 444 Location: Nottingham
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Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2020 1:30 pm Post subject: |
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Inside would be a piece of mica insulator between the terminal and the casing. Probably cracked when tightened up. Sounds like the sort of quality issue from Chinese made products. The old Lucas version would have a thicker insulator.
I had my 1934 Daimler floor mounted start switch apart and found similar, a fire just waiting to start, but remanufactured terminals and insulators from an old starter solenoid to fit within it and I have confidence now knowing its sound.
You just never know with the stuff around these days, often impossible to even dismantle without destroying it. In the old days EVERYTHING could be dismantled and repaired.
If I was in your shoes Ray, I would forgo the refund and strip it, make it better and then you are sure and know it will serve you well for many years.
Just think of it as a £15 lesson in acquired knowledge?
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Ray White
Joined: 02 Dec 2014 Posts: 6313 Location: Derby
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Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2020 1:53 pm Post subject: |
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petelang wrote: | Inside would be a piece of mica insulator between the terminal and the casing. Probably cracked when tightened up. Sounds like the sort of quality issue from Chinese made products. The old Lucas version would have a thicker insulator.
I had my 1934 Daimler floor mounted start switch apart and found similar, a fire just waiting to start, but remanufactured terminals and insulators from an old starter solenoid to fit within it and I have confidence now knowing its sound.
You just never know with the stuff around these days, often impossible to even dismantle without destroying it. In the old days EVERYTHING could be dismantled and repaired.
If I was in your shoes Ray, I would forgo the refund and strip it, make it better and then you are sure and know it will serve you well for many years.
Just think of it as a £15 lesson in acquired knowledge?
Peter |
I know what you mean Peter. Unfortunately this is the second new starter switch that I have bought through the club. As it happens, each one has cost @ £30 and even if I get a refund I will still have wasted my time and the postage.
Incidentally, I have an old original one from the 'sixties and although it looks rough it is probably better inside that the new ones.
Apparently our village has a vacancy. I think I ought to be nominated. |
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Ray White
Joined: 02 Dec 2014 Posts: 6313 Location: Derby
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Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2020 4:28 pm Post subject: |
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Having sat and thought about it I went back out to the car and had another look.
Let me firstly make my excuses for behaving like an idiot. I have a problem with my eyesight and I am booked into the hospital this week for cataract surgery.
What I had done was to fit the battery cable to the switch the wrong way round. This meant part of the cable connector was earthing on the switch body. It wasn't until I shone a light up from underneath that I saw what was happening.
So... there is nothing wrong with the switch and the starter turns the engine over as expected.
My apologies for wasting everyone's time. |
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MVPeters
Joined: 28 Aug 2008 Posts: 822 Location: Northern MA, USA
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Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2020 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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Glad you resolved it!
Cataract surgery is amazing. Invest in 2 or 3 pairs of reading glasses until you find a strength that suits you. _________________ Mike - MVPeters at comcast.net
2002 MINI Cooper 'S' |
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Ray White
Joined: 02 Dec 2014 Posts: 6313 Location: Derby
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Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2020 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you Mike. I am sure it's fine but I can't help feeling a bit nervous. |
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Penguin45
Joined: 28 Jul 2014 Posts: 381 Location: Padiham
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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 9:58 am Post subject: |
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Ray White wrote: | Thank you Mike. I am sure it's fine but I can't help feeling a bit nervous. |
You'll be fine. The difference is amazing - so much so you'll be champing at the bit to get the other eye sorted. Just be aware of photosensitivity for a while - I had to use sunglasses for a couple of months.
Chris. _________________ '67 Wolseley MkI 18/85, '70 Austin MkII 1800 The Landcrab Forum. |
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lowdrag
Joined: 10 Apr 2009 Posts: 1585 Location: Le Mans
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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 12:08 pm Post subject: |
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At the turn of the century I was blind without my bottle-end glasses, and had been all my life. Couldn't tell who you were at five paces. Then I underwent Lasik surgery, and had 20/20 vision and carried +2.5 glasses for reading. Then I had cataract surgery three years back, and still have 20/20 in one eye and 17/20 in the other. it is painless, and you won't regret it. |
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Ray White
Joined: 02 Dec 2014 Posts: 6313 Location: Derby
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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 12:37 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks so much for the encouragement. I can't go on like this.
Hopefully I will be able to get behind the wheel again. |
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