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1937 Morris 8 Series 1 - new addition here at OCC HQ
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ukdave2002



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Result Smile

They were originally negative earth, oil pressure release should be 60lb so assuming the gauge is correct its looking good.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ukdave2002 wrote:
Result Smile

They were originally negative earth, oil pressure release should be 60lb so assuming the gauge is correct its looking good.


Phew! Smile

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 6:49 am    Post subject: Morris 8 video Reply with quote

The oil pressure is controlled by the relief valve in the oil pump. The length of the spring should be about one inch to give 60psi which is recommended maximum.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

An enjoyable vid’ not many pre war in such good unrestored condition, nice find. Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You'll have it out on the road in no time!

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

More progress on the Morris 8 over the last few days.

The next job was to establish a reliable supply of fuel from the tank. So I drained the latter, cleaned the filter, blew the front/back line through then set to work re-awakening the electric pump.

With that done it was time to try the gears and clutch, so out of the garage for a few cautious test drives. The basics appear to work ok, maybe the clutch could be adjusted as it bites a little lower than I think it should (is it adjustable?), but so far the signs are positive.

Junior also had a few brief goes behind the wheel to try it out for size.



There's a bit of blue smoke from the exhaust. This could be tired rings, worn valve guides, or it could be a combination of them plus old engine oil, gummed-up rings, and the remnants of the diesel I poured into each cylinder before getting it to run. We'll see! Does anyone know if rings can be replaced in-situ, or is it an engine-out job?



A video cataloguing these latest exploits, and junior's "driving lessons", is now on YT: https://youtu.be/TR9w0qrharI

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That car is a gem Rick
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe you can do the job without taking the engine out but I think it is easier if you do. I would do the valves and timing chain at the same time. I always replace the big end bolts as a matter course and take care to remove the cylinder ridges.

You know all that stuff anyway so it's your call.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ray White wrote:
I believe you can do the job without taking the engine out but I think it is easier if you do. I would do the valves and timing chain at the same time. I always replace the big end bolts as a matter course and take care to remove the cylinder ridges.

You know all that stuff anyway so it's your call.


I just wondered whether it was physically possible to do it with the engine in-situ. Years ago I had to do the rings on my green Ford pickup, and was able to do it this way. I've no plans to do the Morris yet, not until it's had some lengthy runs and further checks/TLC.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rick,

Referring to your video, the diff looks like a Morris 8 item, and (lucky you) it's the later cast steel housing rather than the early aluminium one that was very weak. You should be able to find the part no. 81969 on the casting.

The diff. ratio was changed at chassis no. 183066 from 8/43 to 7/37. For all practical purposes the gearing is the same.

Oh, and by the way, "they" don't say "The proof is in the pudding", or at least they shouldn't because it doesn't make sense. The saying is, "The proof of the pudding is in the eating".

Might as well offer advice on English proverbs as well as M8 detail!

Richard
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 11:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

goneps wrote:
Rick,

Referring to your video, the diff looks like a Morris 8 item, and (lucky you) it's the later cast steel housing rather than the early aluminium one that was very weak. You should be able to find the part no. 81969 on the casting.

The diff. ratio was changed at chassis no. 183066 from 8/43 to 7/37. For all practical purposes the gearing is the same.

Oh, and by the way, "they" don't say "The proof is in the pudding", or at least they shouldn't because it doesn't make sense. The saying is, "The proof of the pudding is in the eating".

Might as well offer advice on English proverbs as well as M8 detail!

Richard


Fair enough, I just make all this up on the fly so the occasional (ahemm) verbal hiccup may creep in. That's my excuse Wink

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Ray White



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 12:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you have the right idea, Rick. I am sure this is one of those cars that is just crying out to be used. The more it gets driven, the better it will get.

Cross a bridge when you come to it.

(I replaced the rings on my GT6 with the engine in situ. It was all going so well until the strop from the rafters holding the engine snapped. It resulted in a bent prop shaft! You can imagine the expletives Embarassed ) Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:04 am    Post subject: Morris 8 Reply with quote

Certainly looks like a Morris 8 Ser I, II and E diff.
The fuel hose is not the correct type, it should be metal braided type.
To loosen up the rings the first thing to try is a dose of Redex in each cylinder overnight then should be Ok. Expect a lot of smoke. Don't put more than a teaspoonful in each cylinder or it may "hydraulic" and damage a conrod(s).
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree it looks like a later 8 diff, like this;

[IMG]https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/o180/ukdave2002/diff4.jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds[/IMG]

[IMG]https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/o180/ukdave2002/diff3.jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds[/IMG]

As Richard states the early diffs are a tad fragile:

[IMG]https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/o180/ukdave2002/diff1.jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds[/IMG]
[IMG]https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/o180/ukdave2002/diff.jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds[/IMG]
[IMG]https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/o180/ukdave2002/diff2.jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds[/IMG]

The early diffs had a fabric coupler, later a universal joint.

Dave
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peter scott



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ukdave2002 wrote:
I agree it looks like a later 8 diff, like this;

[IMG]https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/o180/ukdave2002/diff4.jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds[/IMG]

[IMG]https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/o180/ukdave2002/diff3.jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds[/IMG]

As Richard states the early diffs are a tad fragile:

[IMG]?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds[/IMG]
[IMG]https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/o180/ukdave2002/diff.jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds[/IMG]
[IMG]https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/o180/ukdave2002/diff2.jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds[/IMG]

The early diffs had a fabric coupler, later a universal joint.

Dave



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