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1937 Talbot 3-Litre "garage find"
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Ray White



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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One question: why are there two separate horn tones on the Talbot, high and low?

Regards,
Joe


In this country it is illegal to sound a car horn in a restricted area ( 30mph and street lights) between the hours of 11.30 p.m and 7.00 a.m.

I imagine the horns are loud for daytime and muted so as not to wake up the Old Bill on an evening beat.??

Only a guess Razz
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the SS the two are simply a high note and a lower note sounded simultaneously.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ray White wrote:
PapaJoe wrote:

One question: why are there two separate horn tones on the Talbot, high and low?
Regards,
Joe

In this country, it is illegal to sound a car horn in a restricted area ( 30mph and street lights) between the hours of 11.30 p.m and 7.00 a.m.
I imagine the horns are loud for daytime and muted so as not to wake up the Old Bill on an evening beat.??
Only a guess Razz


" ..... between the hours of 11.30 p.m and 7.00 a.m. ....." except in an emergency.

Pre-war cars often had a Town horn, peep-peep, & a Country horn, paarp-paarp.
I think the French were particularly fond of these.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MVPeters wrote:
Ray White wrote:
PapaJoe wrote:

One question: why are there two separate horn tones on the Talbot, high and low?
Regards,
Joe

In this country, it is illegal to sound a car horn in a restricted area ( 30mph and street lights) between the hours of 11.30 p.m and 7.00 a.m.
I imagine the horns are loud for daytime and muted so as not to wake up the Old Bill on an evening beat.??
Only a guess Razz


" ..... between the hours of 11.30 p.m and 7.00 a.m. ....." except in an emergency.

Pre-war cars often had a Town horn, peep-peep, & a Country horn, paarp-paarp.
I think the French were particularly fond of these.


Dual hooters probably enabled the motorist to indicate the level of his/her displeasure with errant pedestrians, without recourse to hand gestures or verbal remonstration, which would be highly un-becoming. A soft hoot - mild irritation, hard hoot - immense vexation.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My Grandfather [long since deceased] had a Morris Cowley 2 seater plus dickey, pre-WW2.
He also had a ''cuckoo horn''
Apparently, this was sounded as he turned right, around the backside of the traffic Policeman on point duty [with the striped cuffs?]


The three daughters would all be stuffed into the dickey seat..no doubt Grandad would blame them for the uproar....
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rick, last weekend we had to move the Hillman out the shed to get to some shelves behind her so while she was sat outside on tickover I took some video with the bonnet up. I will try to figure out how to post it for you to compare.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rootes, Stick it on YouTube then we can all see it.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rootes75 wrote:
Rick, last weekend we had to move the Hillman out the shed to get to some shelves behind her so while she was sat outside on tickover I took some video with the bonnet up. I will try to figure out how to post it for you to compare.


That'd be interesting to see, if the file's not too vast (?) I could upload it to YT if you've not yet got an account?

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tinkering around today, the centre brush in the dizzy cap has broken up but the six-cylinder cap doesn't show a part number. I'm guessing that the dizzy itself is DJ6/DK6, which I think makes the cap 400181 (with the flat side, screw in connectors). Does this sound right? I could do with finding a brush and spring.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree DK6A and 400181 cap. 404435 brush and spring.

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I ordered a couple of new brushes today which, hopefully, are the right ones. Plus a few other odds and ends.

A little while later I remembered a box that I have, containing old dizzys, caps, points and so on. I had a root through and pinched a brush and spring from a different cap. It was a little long but I was able to shorten it, I think it'll do the trick but time will tell, it seems to fit.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 26, 2020 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I spent a pleasant few hours today tinkering further with the big T, oil change, lubricating a few things, general tinkering and fettling etc, so a day well spent I think Smile

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi all,

Uploaded today another update on recent tinkerings beneath the Talbot's lengthy bonnet.

https://youtu.be/RGWGRF1vcCE



I've spent a fair chunk of time prep'ing it for a startup attempt, including changing the oil, making up fresh HT leads, lubricating various ancillaries, checking for signs of oil pressure, investigating the carb and so on.

The signs so far are reasonably promising, although until I actually hear it fire up I'm not counting any chickens with regard to its mechanical standing. Right now the carb is in pieces and should be ready to re-fit shortly, with that done I'll then look at rigging up a temporary fuel feed.



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've spent some time lately on the old girl, today we had it coughing a bit but not quite running, then both spare batteries cried enough so that was it for today. I've nabbed the battery from little Dodge and put that on charge, so hopefully that'll have a bit more grunt.

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I made a start at looking over the cooling system today. With the top hose removed and lots of old crud cleaned out, I'm presented with this which I assume is the thermostat - I've not had a car with one like this before.

If I gently lever it up, I can get it to lift approx 2mm, it's lifting against a spring underneath. My question is, how do these come out? Do I continue levering until it frees up, or is there a correct way of removing the thermostat so that I can test it in a pan? There's a curved hose that fits onto the side of the housing, perhaps when I remove that it'll reveal the lower part of the thermostat so that I can prise it up from underneath carefully.

If necessary I'll remove the entire housing, I'll no doubt end up doing that anyway, but I'm curious as to how the thermostat was designed to be removed and replaced.



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