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daveelsy
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 11:13 pm    Post subject: Semaphore trafficators Reply with quote

One of my trafficators is very sluggish and sometimes doesn't work at all.
I've stripped it down and cleaned it thoroughly but It doesn't seem to make any difference.
there doesn't seem to be any damage visible.

Anybody got any clues please?

Is there a recognised procedure for servicing/ renovation of these.

I'm a new user from the north east of England and very impressed with the standard of information on the forum. Hopefully someone has expert knowledge of trafficators.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ukdave might be able to help .. he'll no doubt be along shortly Wink

Rick

PS welcome to the forum, what car are the trafficators for?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Welcome from me too!

Pics of your car is needed??? Wink Very Happy

Cheers

Dave
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 12:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How do I post a picture?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi and welcome

Most common problem for lazy trafficators is poor electrical connections, these things do draw quite a large current, be worth measuring the voltage across the trafficator as it is moving up & comparing it to your good one, they should be within 10% of each other .

Measure the electrical resistance and again compare it to the good one, if it is different either the solenoid coil is damaged or there is a dodgy bit or wiring in either the solenoid or bulb circuit.

Other faults I have seen;

• Gummed up mechanism / solenoid, the solenoid does not require oil! sometimes they get oiled and then dirt sticks to the oil and they begin to seize up. The mechanism (hinge) just requies a drop of 3 in 1.

• Faulty mechanism, trafficators have a simple mechanical lock that prevents the arm swinging out when you go round corners, this can get damaged, most commonly by folk pulling the arm out manually, on most of them it is a simple case of adjustment by bending part of mechanism back to its proper state.

• Incorrect wattage bulbs try it with the bulb out.

• A 12v trafficator in a 6v car.

If you are still stuck let me know I have sorted a few people out with trafficators, got most of the Lucas range in one state or another!! This link may help you identify which one it is.
http://www.oldclassiccar.co.uk/forum/phpbb/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2359

Just reminded me there were a couple of people who contacted me regarding trafficators in Aug, I managed to deleate your details sorry! if you still need them please get in touch.

Cheers Dave
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 8:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for that ukd, all good stuff!

yup I would like to find another 6v one for the Dodge, exterior mounted, quite a large one. I have 1x 6v, and 2x 12v units, so I just need one more 6v (the Dodge will probably stick with 6v)

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

daveelsy wrote:
How do I post a picture?



Hi

See http://www.oldclassiccar.co.uk/forum/phpbb/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2454

Cheers

Dave
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 2:18 pm    Post subject: Trafficators Reply with quote

I have two cars.

The 1933 BSA 10 is on the road and the 1937 Talbot 10 is under restoration. It's getting there but the final 5% is obviously going to take 25% of the time!!

It's one of the Talbot 10 trafficators which is giving the problem and, as it's fixed from inside the car, we can't complete the trimming until we're 100% confident that it's working OK.
Thanks for your help.

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(RJ edit - fixed the photos. Use the code for Forums & Bulletins Wink )
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 8:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Chaps
I had trouble with a slow trafficator the N/S OF my Rover P3 and no matter how much I cleaned or lightly oiled it it still remained slow in the end I found it was the earthing of the body of the trafficator that was at fault, a light rub on the back of the trafficator body and the car body with wet and dry where they touched did the trick, a smear of grease to stop any rust getting in and now the trafficator is as fast as the other one.
Steve
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I meant to say before daveelsy, your 2 cars look fabulous. More often than not its later vehicles that feature on forums, so to see a pair of pre-war cars in such good nick is fab Smile

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Wow they are smart aren't they. Do you do many runs and rallies?

I am pleased to see it is not just my garage that is that full! Laughing

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Buzzy not sure if you got my reply re your trafficator requirements, give me a call if you still need some.

Dave
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

UKdave2002 wrote:


Most common problem for lazy trafficators is poor electrical connections, these things do draw quite a large current, be worth measuring the voltage across the trafficator as it is moving up & comparing it to your good one, they should be within 10% of each other .



If you have sorted out the problems of gummed up mechanism then check the operation when connected directly to a battery. Dave is spot-on re the quality of electrical connections. One in particular that's worth checking is the trafficator switch itself. Again you can check by shorting out the switch contacts. They often have poor contact pressure and don't wipe themselves clean effectively.

HTH

Peter
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 1:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BEAUTIFUL cars!
And a real nice brick garage there too, I might add.
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