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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:49 am    Post subject: 1972 Volvo 164E - a 1970s car joins us Reply with quote

I'll introduce it properly on here soon, but today's video upload talks about the car I've chosen as our "newer" classic, more suited to longer trips etc.
https://youtu.be/CpMumcstwwA

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks nice, Rick, though I feel you're going to have some fun tidying up after all those poorly fitted accessories!
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congratulations with what seems to be a nice car.

That said, it is good we all have different wishes. Maybe I am spoiled by working weekends and holidays at a Volvo specialist in the early eighties, but these 164 (nor 140/240) never impressed me much. I drove quite a few back then. I can imagine they were not as common in the UK as they were over here so maybe that makes it somewhat special for you.
There are so much more interesting 70s saloons ..... XJ6, P5 or P6, Triumph 2500, DS or CX, Peug 404, Alfa 1750 or 2000, Fiat 132, maybe even American... Very Happy

No offence intended at all, hope you are happy with your boxy Volvo.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

badhuis wrote:
Congratulations with what seems to be a nice car.

That said, it is good we all have different wishes. Maybe I am spoiled by working weekends and holidays at a Volvo specialist in the early eighties, but these 164 (nor 140/240) never impressed me much. I drove quite a few back then. I can imagine they were not as common in the UK as they were over here so maybe that makes it somewhat special for you.
There are so much more interesting 70s saloons ..... XJ6, P5 or P6, Triumph 2500, DS or CX, Peug 404, Alfa 1750 or 2000, Fiat 132, maybe even American... Very Happy

No offence intended at all, hope you are happy with your boxy Volvo.


It's a nostalgia thing in some ways, given the 144S that dad had.

I've owned XJ Series 1s and P5Bs so didn't really want to go back down those routes, plus buying a good one of either would be now. DS or CX would be too complicated for me I think. Alfas probably too pricey now. I don't know much about Peugeot 404s but they are very rare here so most spare parts would probably need to be imported. I like Triumph 2000/2500 saloons and estates, but finding one that isn't full of rot would be a challenge.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quick intro to the 164E.



The Volvo received various body renovations around 7-8 years ago, from looking around it's had rear arches, full sills, and possibly new front wings, before being re-sprayed. Since then the car lived outside, there are a few paint defects when you get in close, and a bit of likely corrosion between the screen and the rear edge of the bonnet, but given that it's been outside in all weathers it has held up well.

It was last on the road in 2018 I think, the retired owner passed away either last year or this, and the gent who helped him maintain it arranged its sale on behalf of the owner's daughter. Sadly his home was cleared out and any history that belonged to the Volvo was binned.

Like I say, this is a bit of a nostalgia trip as dad ran a 144S in the 1970s, the registration of which ended in 57K - the 164's ends in 58K so it seemed like a natural continuation Smile

So far it appears to run ok, albeit a little warmer than I think it should. I need to have a look and feel of the rad once it's run for a while, to see whether there are any blockages. I've been through the rear brakes, both rear flexis had collapsed internally so I replaced them and bled it up, only to find that the one caliper on the car that hadn't been replaced in recent times was leaking fluid everywhere, so that has now been replaced and, touch wood, the brakes work ok now although new rear discs wouldn't go amiss sometime.

There are various "upgrades" on the car, including LPG (which doesn't currently function), and electronic ignition, plus a tide of gadgets that haven't been particularly well wired in, so gradually I'll remove most of them I think.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know much about these cars, Rick, but it looks like a reasonably good one for it's year. My only reservation is the badge bar. I, personally, have never liked them although I well understand if you think badges are part of it's history and you might want to keep them. To me they are just so much clutter.

I do, however, like the original emblem in the diagonal strip.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rick wrote:
DS or CX would be too complicated for me I think.

You might think again about that. I have no experience with DS but do with CX. For a few years, mid 90s to early 00s, I drove a CX. I had several as they were cheap to buy and I could not resist them Very Happy
All were series one cars because I like these most. These are less complicated to the later series, especially electrics.

They are very reliable cars, known here in Holland to reach very mileages without problems. Engines are indestructable.
I had to make some new hydraulic lines over the years because of corrosion, and a rear suspension bearing was a dog to replace. Unreliability is not a reason not to own one. They have a strange but well designed suspension system which is difficult to understand but it does not need much attention.
Rust is the main reason why these cars were scrapped.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is the LPG arrangement designed to work through the fuel injection system or was LPG there to supplant the fuel injection?

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ray White wrote:
I don't know much about these cars, Rick, but it looks like a reasonably good one for it's year. My only reservation is the badge bar. I, personally, have never liked them although I well understand if you think badges are part of it's history and you might want to keep them. To me they are just so much clutter.

I do, however, like the original emblem in the diagonal strip.


I removed some of the original badges, and kept a couple, I think an extra splash of colour on the front suits it but I might change my mind, we'll see.

Peter - I think it has separate injectors for the LPG tapped into the inlet manifold, which would make removing the system a little more tricky if I decide to have it stripped out.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I saw an period Volvo advert for a 164 not so long a go, what made me chuckle was that whilst every other manufactures who made rival cars would promote the 0-60mph acceleration, Volvo promote about the 60-0mph...stopping time Very Happy

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With the rear brakes attended to, I moved to the front and drained off the coolant to replace it with new. The thermostat checked out ok but the housing showed signs of corrosion, I re-installed it for the timebeing and ordered a replacement tstat, housing and seal. The current seal has gone hard and isn't sealing.

Cosmetically I really disliked the modern plastic numberplates, so a new set of proper metal reflective plates with raised letters was bought, and were fitted a few days ago.

https://youtu.be/7Mj3722_pd0

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

She looks lovely, have fun 💙💙
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The new thermostat and housing are now fitted, yesterday I moved it outside to run it up to temperature, I think it's still running a little warmer that it should but it's better. I also found that the overflow pipe into the expansion bottle wasn't getting warm at all, blowing through it seems to have cleared a blockage and now the level in the bottle rises and falls as you'd expect, so that should help.

The new numberplates look so much better IMO.




While it was outside, junior decided to do a short vid for his channel about it

https://youtu.be/2k9GgEYjerY

Hopefully next week I'll be able to try it down the road.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2021 11:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We've done a few local test drives out in the Volvo lately which have proven interesting, I've been experimenting with radiator pressure caps and that has improved its running especially as some tests were on quite hot days.



A brief spurt up to 50 mph (!) revealed that one front brake is dragging slightly so next job is to remove the front wheel and give the caliper pistons a little exercise, the caliper's not very old so won't need much looking at hopefully.

Footage of the test drives was uploaded this morning to https://youtu.be/-iNoQLptABY

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Jacked up and removed the n/s/f wheel today and freed up the caliper, it was working ok but must have been dragging a little, enough for it to bind slightly, now it seems to be working correctly.

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