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Ray White



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2022 7:07 pm    Post subject: and still they turn up... Reply with quote




I made an unsuccessful offer for a nice one of these a few years ago. This one, I imagine, would make a satisfying restoration because it seems to be complete and (headlamps apart) unspoilt. Keep it simple, keep it as original as possible and don't over spend.

Could be a fun project for someone.

https://www.carandclassic.com/car/C1517001
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2022 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is that a MarkII Zephyr?

Highline or lowline?
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Ray White



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2022 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Penman wrote:
Is that a MarkII Zephyr?

Highline or lowline?


I don't know but the tyre may suggest it's been sat for a while.Shocked
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Talking about Mk11 Fords (possibly the best British mass market car of it's day) how about this for a restoration?

https://www.carandclassic.com/car/C1521782



Taken to concours level it will probably not be driven far. Does the price reflect the restoration costs? I doubt it covers them; more a labour of love I expect.

Our family car for a while, we had a green and white Consul which proved utterly reliable for holidays in Cornwall - except for one occasion when some piston rings failed, but my Dad had it fixed in no time. Wink
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Ray White



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Penman wrote:
Is that a MarkII Zephyr?

Highline or lowline?


Also, I spotted a Riley hiding away in the shed.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Somehow these prewar Wolseleys don't do it for me. The styling is just off. Radiator too big (at the top), as is the windscreen.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 3:14 pm    Post subject: Re: and still they turn up... Reply with quote

Ray White wrote:
Keep it simple, keep it as original as possible and don't over spend.

Good advice! Not sure you followed this yourself with your MG TC restoration ?!?!? Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 3:32 pm    Post subject: Re: and still they turn up... Reply with quote

badhuis wrote:
Ray White wrote:
Keep it simple, keep it as original as possible and don't over spend.

Good advice! Not sure you followed this yourself with your MG TC restoration ?!?!? Laughing Laughing


Very true. If I can offer any advise about how not to do it then I would happily offer my own experiences as an example. Embarassed




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PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the ford is a lowline, so post 59, not sure if consul zephyr, probably a consul i reckon
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

badhuis wrote:
Somehow these prewar Wolseleys don't do it for me. The styling is just off. Radiator too big (at the top), as is the windscreen.


1941 can't be right, surely. ?

According to the Wolseley Owners Club, a significant improvement to the design of the leaf spring suspension was a feature of the series 111, 14 - 60. It was dubbed "phased" suspension where by deploying springs of different - but finely tuned - lengths, to the front and rear, the 'periodicity' of the springs could be pre determined to iron out any "see saw" effect.

All clever stuff...or mega B.S. Razz ?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

badhuis wrote:
Somehow these prewar Wolseleys don't do it for me. The styling is just off. Radiator too big (at the top), as is the windscreen.


You can have essentially the same engine, transmission and very similar chassis in a more elegant body with the MG SA. (Well the Wolseley 18/80)


https://images1.bonhams.com/image?src=Images/live/2003-06/20/4065981-1-1.jpg

http://www.nostalgiatech.co.uk/new_page_9.htm

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

peter scott wrote:

You can have essentially the same engine, transmission and very similar chassis in a more elegant body with the MG SA. (Well the Wolseley 18/80)


https://images1.bonhams.com/image?src=Images/live/2003-06/20/4065981-1-1.jpg

http://www.nostalgiatech.co.uk/new_page_9.htm

Peter


Peter, I see you have compared the side on elevation of the MG with the SS.

You can see where William Lyons had an eye for a good line, can't you?

It's even better than the Bentley at half the cost.!
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:39 am    Post subject: Wolseleys Reply with quote

The first car I ever rode in was a Wolseley 21 just after the war when petrol becane available. It was a 1939 but laid up through the war. It was immaculate. My father was the chauffeur who drove it and one day he called home for hid lunch and gave us a ride. before we got in we had to wipe our feet on a cloth and "don't touch anything" in case you leave a finger mark!!
When the boss died the car was sold off about 1950 but nobody wanted big cars doe to the high fuel consumption. I have all the delivery documents for it in the original envelope including a couple of Union Jack stickers to affix to the car. I think the rego was EVR759.
The 12, 14, 18, 21 and 25 were all the same shape but different sizes.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a shame but EVR759 is no longer of the UK Vehicle records.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That Wolseley was advertised on Facebook recently for around £1k if I remember right, photographed in a tumbledown barn where it had been sitting for a looooooong time.

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