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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 10:33 am    Post subject: Mystery gear box Reply with quote

Any idea what this gear box is from?

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a bit hard to tell, have you got a bigger photo? Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If we assume that the flywheel is on the engine side of the box then the gear change is on the left side of the vehicle so I would assume it's not British.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would say it's likely to be from a tractor.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crashbox wrote:
I would say it's likely to be from a tractor.

Why a Tractor?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MikeEdwards wrote:
It's a bit hard to tell, have you got a bigger photo? Smile

Sorry Couldn't fathom out how to make it smaller?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did they make the Riley Ditchfinder in LHD configuration?
OR was there a Continental or American car using the gear shift next to the door system?
If the lenght of the gear shift remote tunnel is not sufficient for that idea, what about a single seater with the driver sat virtually over the rea of the gearbox and the shift falling to hand on the left.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would say it's very old; The casting is broken but not terminally so. The difficulty, as has been mentioned, is the LHD configuration. Even early European cars were RHD and I can't think of an American with that type of gear change.

A difficult thing to date let alone identify.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

peter scott wrote:
If we assume that the flywheel is on the engine side of the box then the gear change is on the left side of the vehicle so I would assume it's not British.

Peter

Now I might be wrong but I have seen one old vehicle with a flywheel type thing at the rear of the gearbox as a brake like a transmission brake on a Land Rover, but its all guess work until we can find more info
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is surely just a separate right-hand drive, three-speed (?) and reverse, right-hand gate-change gearbox?

That “flywheel” is too small and would be on the end of the engine’s crankshaft/clutch assembly connected by a flexible composite disc to that three-fingered spider on the left-hand, front-end of this box – and it wouldn’t have bolts sticking out, which look like part of a drive-shaft coupling. It is more likely the drum of a transmission brake. That style brake could indicate it’s earlier but some Humbers from 1910 until at least 1927 had a separate gearbox with a fibre engine to gearbox coupling, a rear contractile transmission drum brake and a large diameter fibre coupling onto the Cardan shaft. Some separate Rovers boxes were a bit similar with a transmission brake until quite late. There were probably more likewise. DG.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cargy. I think you are right. What we have been calling a flywheel is in fact a transmission brake - common on many Edwardian/ vintage cars - and that makes it a RHD British car.

I may have mentioned the Adversane Scrap yard before... but I recall back in the 1970s seeing a shipping container stuffed full of these type of gearboxes (and crankcases).
The value was in the aluminium. Sad
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just checked the threads and its metric
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just checked the threads and its metric
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