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Ray White



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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2023 11:52 am    Post subject: Not seen one before Reply with quote





This is a car that I know very little about. From the description it sounds pretty good.

On the other hand, I imagine most buyers would be put off by it's scarcity if nothing else. Where would you get the parts?

https://www.carandclassic.com/car/C1587053
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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2023 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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" The Grégoire design had integral construction, independent suspension all round, a 2.2 Litre flat-four engine and front wheel drive. Claimed top speed was 95 mph. Buyers did not welcome its smooth shape. Endless teething troubles brought production to a complete standstill in 1952. "
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Ray White



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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2023 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe ahead of it's time? Many a good design has been rushed into production with insufficient development. Perhaps that is what happened here.?

The argument that customers didn't take to it's smooth shape seems to be at odds with the evidence when one considers the success of the VW Beetle and other 'smooth' cars of the time.
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Crashbox



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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2023 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jean-Albert Grégoire is the chap behind this vehicle

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hotchkiss_Gr%C3%A9goire

Here's some info on the man himself...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Albert_Gr%C3%A9goire

The Panhard Dyna X of 1948-1954 was originally exhibited as the AFG (Aluminium Français Grégoire) Dyna at the 1946 Paris Motor Show.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panhard_Dyna_X#Running_gear
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Ray White



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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2023 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It seems pretty obvious to me from what I have read that the price was set too high as it was twice as expensive as the equivalent size Traction Avant 15CV
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mikeC



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PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2023 8:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't believe the shape had anything to do with its lack of success, cars like the A40 Somerset and Jowett Javelin sold well with very similar designs. Price was the biggest factor, coupled with the unconventional mechanical features and lack of a big-name sales support would have been the main stumbling blocks. No doubt had it carried the Citroen name it would have been just as successful as the later DS range.
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