|
|
| Author |
Message |
ukdave2002
Joined: 23 Nov 2007
Posts: 4105
Location: South Cheshire
|
 Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2023 11:33 am Post subject: 3ph Bench drill & Grinder FOC |
 |
|
Hi
These are FOC for anyone who can collect from Nantwich within the next week, otherwise they are going in the skip!
No good to me as I don't have 3ph, as such I can't test them
3ph pillar drill
3ph Grinder
Contact me:
d a v e l aw t o n 1 0 0 at msn.com. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Penman
Joined: 23 Nov 2007
Posts: 4759
Location: Swindon, Wilts.
|
| Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2023 11:58 am Post subject: |
|
|
I love the pillar drill's reference to lubrication by a brand called Gargoyle.
If your mention of 3 phase applies to both, who knew that B & D did 3 phase? Surely most of us thought they "only" did DIY home use use tools.
_________________
Bristols should always come in pairs.
Any 2 from:-
Straight 6
V8 V10 |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
ukdave2002
Joined: 23 Nov 2007
Posts: 4105
Location: South Cheshire
|
| Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2023 12:24 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Penman wrote: | I love the pillar drill's reference to lubrication by a brand called Gargoyle.
If your mention of 3 phase applies to both, who knew that B & D did 3 phase? Surely most of us thought they "only" did DIY home use use tools. |
Your post made me double check the grinder, it is indeed a B&D UK made 3ph device.
 |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Bitumen Boy
Joined: 26 Jan 2012
Posts: 1735
Location: Above the snow line in old Monmouthshire
|
| Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2023 12:14 am Post subject: |
|
|
| The older Black & Decker stuff is perfectly servicable if it hasn't been abused and worn out. I have a drill that belonged to my grandfather and, although it appears small and underpowered by today's standards, I find it does a better job of drilling steel than a modern mains drill! The secret, I think, is that the gearing is quite low compared to modern kit which means the bit isn't running at too high a speed, so it can "bite into" the work rather than just skating over the surface and making a noise... |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Penman
Joined: 23 Nov 2007
Posts: 4759
Location: Swindon, Wilts.
|
| Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2023 10:22 am Post subject: |
|
|
B B. It may also be that the older ones didn't have a hammer function. Even when you don't have the hammer in operation the chuck is still able to "float back and forth, this is why modern drills don't work well in lathe beds like the older ones did with the suitable accessories.
_________________
Bristols should always come in pairs.
Any 2 from:-
Straight 6
V8 V10 |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Bitumen Boy
Joined: 26 Jan 2012
Posts: 1735
Location: Above the snow line in old Monmouthshire
|
| Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2023 12:11 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Penman wrote: | | B B. It may also be that the older ones didn't have a hammer function. Even when you don't have the hammer in operation the chuck is still able to "float back and forth, this is why modern drills don't work well in lathe beds like the older ones did with the suitable accessories. |
Penman: You may well be on to something there! Try finding a modern power drill without some sort of hammer function, they all have it even if it doesn't work very well. I have an old Bosch drill that Dad got off the tiger tokens (!) that still works even though it's about as old as I am and similarly well worn... Had it apart a few times to fit new flex and I was surprised by how simple / crude the hammer mechanism is, though it works pretty well. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Ray White
Joined: 02 Dec 2014
Posts: 6318
Location: Derby
|
| Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2023 1:25 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Bitumen Boy wrote: | | The older Black & Decker stuff is perfectly servicable if it hasn't been abused and worn out. I have a drill that belonged to my grandfather and, although it appears small and underpowered by today's standards, I find it does a better job of drilling steel than a modern mains drill! The secret, I think, is that the gearing is quite low compared to modern kit which means the bit isn't running at too high a speed, so it can "bite into" the work rather than just skating over the surface and making a noise... |
This is my ancient and well used B&D drill which like you say is perfectly serviceable albeit small and relatively low powered. It is my "go to" tool when my other more powerful drill is too big to get into a tight spot.
How about that for "patina"? |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Bitumen Boy
Joined: 26 Jan 2012
Posts: 1735
Location: Above the snow line in old Monmouthshire
|
| Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2023 11:19 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Ray White wrote: | | Bitumen Boy wrote: | | The older Black & Decker stuff is perfectly servicable if it hasn't been abused and worn out. I have a drill that belonged to my grandfather and, although it appears small and underpowered by today's standards, I find it does a better job of drilling steel than a modern mains drill! The secret, I think, is that the gearing is quite low compared to modern kit which means the bit isn't running at too high a speed, so it can "bite into" the work rather than just skating over the surface and making a noise... |
This is my ancient and well used B&D drill which like you say is perfectly serviceable albeit small and relatively low powered. It is my "go to" tool when my other more powerful drill is too big to get into a tight spot.
How about that for "patina"? |
Now that IS an old one, Ray! I can well believe its usefulness in a tight spot given how short in length it appears to be; I'm assuming that's a pretty standard biscuit tin it's in? |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Ray White
Joined: 02 Dec 2014
Posts: 6318
Location: Derby
|
| Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2023 12:05 am Post subject: |
|
|
Yes it is just an ordinary biscuit tin. The drill spent many years attached to a home made pillar stand. Originally it belonged to my Father in Law who used it for clock repairs. What I also like is there is no plastic.
They just don't make stuff like it now! |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Rootes75
Joined: 30 Apr 2013
Posts: 3819
Location: The Somerset Levels
|
| Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2023 9:55 am Post subject: |
|
|
No plastic...that's something to tell the young generation!!
_________________
Various Rootes Vehicles. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
ukdave2002
Joined: 23 Nov 2007
Posts: 4105
Location: South Cheshire
|
| Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2023 10:34 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Rootes75 wrote: | | No plastic...that's something to tell the young generation!! |
whilst explaining what that funny angled thing in the chuck is for!  |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Penman
Joined: 23 Nov 2007
Posts: 4759
Location: Swindon, Wilts.
|
| Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2023 7:55 pm Post subject: |
|
|
always taped my chuck key to the flex, far enough down so that I could operate it properly.
_________________
Bristols should always come in pairs.
Any 2 from:-
Straight 6
V8 V10 |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Ray White
Joined: 02 Dec 2014
Posts: 6318
Location: Derby
|
| Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2023 9:03 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Penman wrote: | | always taped my chuck key to the flex, far enough down so that I could operate it properly. |
There is a second chuck key taped to the flex (not in picture). |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
FAQ
Search
Memberlist
Usergroups
Profile
Log in to check your private messages
Log in
