Classic cars forum & vehicle restoration.

[Rick]

hmmm do you think it'll last 30 years to become a classic though??? handy little thing for inner city use I guess

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[ukdave2002]

What ever you think of it, its a landmark! £1300 for a brand new car, it will have its place in history...

Mind you if it was ever sold in the UK with our tax's and dealers it would probably be about £7500!!!

Dave

[Rick]

these buzzy little things seem to appear on the continent so maybe they would sell if exported from India? but as ukd says it'd never that cheap over here

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[Downton]

My A40...classic car
Now my daily driver is one of those 80,s cars that some say is modern classic..
It attracts the usual attention and comments from admirers but is it a classic?
I love the car but I see my Austin as the real classic of the two.The Renault is 20 years old this year but in another 5 will I be able to get a limited mileage agreed value insurance package which allows me to use my no claims bonus on a daily driver? Are the insurance company,s going to be responsible for defining a future classic.So when you look at the two together what are your thoughts? I hope the 5 does make it to classic status as I feel it has made the effort to be so but this is purely my thoughts on this and many of you may see it another way.To me in all honesty the Renault feels fairly modern and its the same I think of many of its competition of the day..The Hot Hatch...fun to drive but the Healey 3000 sounds nicer ...looks better... but I cannot afford one!!

[Rick]

Hi Downton, yup I think an unmodified R5 Turbo must be a candidate for future classicness, if it isn't already. Most have been hammered to death by now, I don't remember the last time I saw one of the earlier 'hot' ones either - the Gordini??

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[Downton]

Hi Rick ..not seen a Gordini on the road ever!..Lucky with mine as its a 36,000 mile example which was totaly standard when purchased..I have added the wheels and a stainless exhaust only but all the mechanics remain as renault sent them out ..we were talking at work about this during dinner and flicking through an old classic car weekly you find the 1980 Cortina Crusader Mk5 listed as an ideal starter classic and you struggle with the classic part but an RS 2000 Mk2 Escort easily falls into the classic status.. Both are Ford..the same year and very good cars yet one does and the other not so..How do we define a classic..Find it a total mystery Best thing to do is all the forum members put our heads together and build a time machine! I will buy my ticket now

[Geoffp]

I don't put the lack of modern cars worth being looked on as classics down to modern marketing or cost-cutting accountants; badge-engineering to give a different status to basically similar cars was rife in the 'classic' age, and cars have always been built down to a price. No, IMO it is due to the introduction of stupid meaningless names. The Ford Focus might be a perfectly good car, but with a name like that it stands no chance of ever being a classic, unlike say the Austin Westminster or the Lancia Flaminia Zagato, which couldn't have failed no matter what sort of car they were.
It's even worse in other walks of life. A company with a name like Arriva could never run a decent bus service but I'm sure the Stalybridge, Hyde, Mossley and Dukinfield Transport and Electricity Board never had a tram running even a minute late. What employer would ever listen to a trade union called Unite; When we had a coal industry the National Association of Colliery Overmen, Deputies and Shotfirers were a force to be reckoned with. I could go on, no wonder GCSEs are regarded as hardly worth the paper they're written on when bodies with names like Edexcel award them. I have a certificate from the Northern Universities Joint Matriculation Board, that carried some clout and I'm sure they also ran the trams on time, too.
So proper names, proper classics?

Geoff

[ukdave2002]

One problem with finding a new name is that just about any decent name now has copyright , hence the increase of organisations/products where the name has a vowel as the 2nd and final letter with seemingly random letters in-between!
Marketing people get paid a fortune to come up with them!! We’re in the wrong business

[Uncle Joe]

Good point you made there. I wonder if an Austin Cleethorpes (if it had ever existed) would have been a classic today?

That got me thinking about possibly the best ever make & model name, even though it is a motorcycle: Norman Nippy. now theres a name to conjour with.

[Geoffp]

Uncle Joe, in my youth I had an NSU Quickly moped. I think the name lost something in translation

Geoff

[pigtin]

Hey, The Norman Nippy was made just down the road from where I used to live in Ashford. I had always drooled over the Norman Invader bike as a lad.
Sadly they were taken over by Tube Investments, then oblivion.

[Job-Rated]

My brother had a Norman Nippy when I was a young un'.
Painted the whole thing silver & let me race it around the garden.
Long gone now...
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[acr25]

Hi Dave do you have any Lucas RF 95 regulators left.
My 1949 AC needs one desperatley.
Tony

[Master-J]

been into classic cars for all me life by now, and in my oppinion I do think that most cars of 80-90ies aso, will never be classics out of two reasons.

First reason is that todays youngsters dont share the same interesst for cars as the older generation. We coould with ease fall in love with a standard family car equipped with a tach and a wooden steeringwheel and some extra rallylights in front. Or why not a set of 5,1/2" Lotus Cortina Wheels. Todays youngsters are more into gadgets such as blue lights and superduper HIFI systems. Tuning a carmotor is today done with electronics and turboshargers, gone are the 45DCOE Webers. And isnt especialy interessted in getting dirty and working their ass of in dealing with rust, worn out parts that cant be found in the next door garage aso. They dont have the tradition of reparing-restoring cause its much cheaper to buy a new unit.

Second reason in my oppinion is the modern cars electronic systems, that natuarly one day will fail. Cost of restoration of car=10000,oo£ cost of restoration and construction of a legal electronic system. 10000,oo£ +!!! Meaning a nice 2000 Porsche, Jagaur, Ferrari or any kind of dreamcar will not survive and who wants a Porsche that you cant take ut for a spin. With similar electronics in our familycars the economy of restoring a modern classic becomes mre then mad.

[Brookie]

There are some cars that would qualify such as Porsche 924,944 & 968.
One of my favourites -don't laugh-because of "bang for your buck" is the Renault Fuego from 1980-1986 in Europe and 1992 in Argentina.
I also have one but can rarely drive it due to knee & back problem that makes autos and very upright seating more suitable.
Mine has full history with one owner.



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